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Sorry, I can't copy and paste on this. Telegraph website from 3rd November had article on whether ICU beds are close to capacity or not.
 
Surely though, it only puts those not having the vaccine at risk ?

How am I more at risk, if I'm vaccinated ? (Obviously it could wear off over time.)

The vaccine is not 100% effective

There are groups of people who cannot be vaccinated ( immuno suppressed for instance)

Some people, inevitably will end up being missed.

Etc
 
Fair enough, I’ve not actually bothered with that one at all.
As I said earlier today covid is apolitical, it's affecting governments right, left, and centre much the same (even dictatorships where you can be locked in).

Your post earlier today was spot on with what should happen in an ideal world, and if every country had adapted that method in late winter/early spring, we might never have even needed a vaccine, and could have had a shorter lockdown then too, but there are many reasons it simply couldn't/didn't happen, mainly we have to have, and keep an economy running.

Some of us are fortunate that our jobs could move out of the office and into our homes, and still work, it's been quite a challenge doing that for me, but I've managed it, with only occasional visits into work, but my job supports our armed forces around the world, and that support is considered essential.

Unfortunately for many others this couldn't happen (including my wife), and she was first furloughed, and is now back at work, in an industry that potentially puts her at risk of catching it, they have considerable and very cumbersome PPE to mitigate the risk, but she is also considered essential.
 
Greater Manchester scoreboard:

Manchester 249 - down from 270. Total cases 23,395. Weekly 2369. Pop score up 45 to 4232. Weekly Pop 429.

Oldham 164 - down from 188. Total cases 11,869. Weekly 1751. Pop score up 70 - most in GM today - to despite the lowish number become at 5006 GMs first 5000 club resident and second in UK behind Blackburn. Who are way out in front at 5203. Weekly Pop down 1 to 739,

164 is the lowest number to be second in GM for nearly 5 weeks.

Bolton 159 - down from 180. Total cases 12,358. Weekly 1459. Pop score up 56 to 4298. Weekly Pop down 14 to 528.

Rochdale 151 UP from 124 - rare blip today but still 80 down on 32 days ago. Total cases10, 003. Weekly 1313. Pop score up 68 to 4498. Weekly Pop UP to 591.

Wigan 133 - huge drop from 223. Lowest score here in over 3 weeks. Total cases 13, 280. Weekly 1738. Pop score up 41 to 4041. Weekly Pop down 33 to 570.

Salford 111 - down from 135. Like other GM places today lowest in a month or so. Total cases 10, 609. Weekly 1369. Pop score up 43 to 4099. Weekly Pop down 10 to 529.

Tameside 110 - UP from 88. Total cases 8469. Weekly 1023. Pop score up 48 to 3739. Weekly Pop down 5 to 451.

Trafford 110 - UP from 107. Total cases 7446 Weekly 946. Best in GM still sub 1000. But others closing in on doing so again too. Pop score up 46 to 3137. Weekly Pop up to 398.

Stockport 109 - UP from 105. Total cases 8615. Weekly 1045. Pop score up 37 - lowest in GM today. To 2936. Weekly Pop down 6 to 356. Lowest in GM. Also increased lead on overall Pop score on Trafford back over 200 to 201. Even so bad day tomorrow and it will exit the 2000s and leave GM with nobody in there.

Bury 104 - down from 121. Total cases 7860. Weekly 1067. Pop score up 54 to 4115. Weekly Pop down 10 to 558.


As you see back to bunching we used to see weeks ago with the best 5 boroughs having just 7 between them.
 
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