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The regional weekly Pop Score table for the 9 English regions has today seen the North West lose its second place behind the South West as expected when I posted the details yesterday and suggested Yorkshire was about to overtake it.

The numbers are calculated the same way as the Pop Scores every day for each town in the GM list above. They are basically total cases over the past 7 days per 100,000 people showing by increases or decreases if a place is rising or falling in case numbers and by how much.

As you will see NOBODY is falling. Everyone is rising. A week or two ago the North West was coming down. A few days ago it was level. Now it is growing and the % rise growing.

Both the North East and Yorkshire are now rising by less than the North West. Though the NW is at the moment rising by less than all the southern regions. It is going in the wrong direction daily unfortunately.

Here are the numbers:

Rank (lowest is best) - Region - Weekly Pop score - % increase in last 24 hours

1 LONDON 529 Up 117%

2 EAST 374 Up 99%

3 SOUTH EAST 353 Up 79%

4 WEST MIDLANDS 214 Up 26%

5 EAST MIDLANDS 213 Up 21%

6 NORTH EAST 180 Up 14%

7 NORTH WEST 166 Up 23%

8 YORKSHIRE/HUMBER 160 Up 10%

9 SOUTH WEST 123 Up 46 %
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The active ingredient is a small part of the virus's genetic code, RNA, made synthetically not extracted from live virus. It's held in tiny fat particles similar to the cream in homogenised milk. Because it's just a small part of the virus code, there's no risk of any infection from actual virus.



The fat particles transport the code into our cells where it is released. The cells respond by making the small part of the virus the code tells them to. Our own immune system reacts to that part, and because our immune system has a memory, it's ready primed to go if it ever sees the real virus.

The RNA code itself does not last long in the body, so the cells soon stop their production, and there are no residues left.



If the real virus infects you, the head start your immune system has means it recognises the part of the virus the vaccine coded for. Your own immune system attacks it, so the virus never takes hold, and you either get no infection at all, or a mild version.




Any good?

There's no Mercury in it. Ingredients in section 3 here, but essentially just RNA, fat and emulisfier to form the nanoparticles, plus a buffer to control the pH.

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Ok cheers that was nice. And I'm glad I had got I largely right.

Sadly your Google link is broken

I guess I'm wondering if aluminium or ethyl Mercury is used to boost the immune response. Thanks again
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Right. I imagined a first wave doubling every 3-4 days, only peaking at 1000 deaths a day which only stopped with a lock down.

I'm imagining a situation right now where there are ~20,000 pts in hospital, and 2000 *a day* being admitted.

500 people a day aren't dying.

Tell me, what effect will exponential growth have on this as a new variant, doubling in prevalence every 6 days under current restrictions takes hold?
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Imagining. Exactly.

You keep the current restrictions, there's no christmas shopping to do and you re-introduce shielding for those on the vaccine list with a specific vaccine furlough scheme. Cancel Feb half-term and add a week to the Christmas holidays so you have an extra week of kids off to research the new strain.

Something that doubles every 6 days when 6 days ago the major affected area was still in tier 2 shows you haven't taken due care in your assessment.
 
On that table of the increase in cases in the 9 England regions this data I posted earlier today is very significant.



Yorkshire 6% - 7% - 5%

versus

North West 7% - 12% - 17%

These are the % of the new variant of Covid found within the positive tests across the past 6 weeks.


First one early.mid November, then late November, then a week or so ago.


As you can see the NW has had one in 13 cases for weeks with this new strain and was one in eight nearly a month ago and for a week or two it has been one in six.

It is almost certainly higher now and will be climbing daily.


But then look at Yorkshire - where the variant started low and over those weeks has fallen and is now just one in 20. Under a third the level of the NW a week ago. Probably more now.

The consequence is very clear and is why the NW has lost its star of the north place and Yorkshire has overtaken it.

This variant is kicking us slowly like a can down the road in the direction of the southern regions and every day we do nothing about it we are closer and closer to seeing numbers like they are seeing down there.

I really hope someone is urgently investigating why Yorkshire has evaded in the main getting this strain.
 
Healdplace said:
On that table of the increase in cases in the 9 England regions this data I posted earlier today is very significant.



Yorkshire 6% - 7% - 5%

versus

North West 7% - 12% - 17%

These are the % of the new variant of Covid found within the positive tests across the past 6 weeks.


First one early.mid November, then late November, then a week or so ago.


As you can see the NW has had one in 13 cases for weeks with this new strain and was one in eight nearly a month ago and for a week or two it has been one in six.

It is almost certainly higher now and will be climbing daily.


But then look at Yorkshire - where the variant started low and over those weeks has fallen and is now just one in 20. Under a third the level of the NW a week ago. Probably more now.

The consequence is very clear and is why the NW has lost its star of the north place and Yorkshire has overtaken it.

This variant is kicking us slowly like a can down the road in the direction of the southern regions and every day we do nothing about it we are closer and closer to seeing numbers like they are seeing down there.

I really hope someone is urgently investigating why Yorkshire has evaded in the main getting this strain.
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Sean Bean has kicked its arse on a diet of Yorkshire Tea?
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sounds impressive until you realise those 500,000 people still have to go back for their second jab.

Seriously mate, this roll out will still be insufficient numbers by next Winter.
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400,000 people a day will get vaccine at the start of January. 800,000 people a day will by the end of January (so delivering 400,000 immune people a day).
Everybody over the age of 18 will be done in 5 months according to my IT bud who works for PHE.
That's the plan.
 
Healdplace said:
On that table of the increase in cases in the 9 England regions this data I posted earlier today is very significant.



Yorkshire 6% - 7% - 5%

versus

North West 7% - 12% - 17%

These are the % of the new variant of Covid found within the positive tests across the past 6 weeks.


First one early.mid November, then late November, then a week or so ago.


As you can see the NW has had one in 13 cases for weeks with this new strain and was one in eight nearly a month ago and for a week or two it has been one in six.

It is almost certainly higher now and will be climbing daily.


But then look at Yorkshire - where the variant started low and over those weeks has fallen and is now just one in 20. Under a third the level of the NW a week ago. Probably more now.

The consequence is very clear and is why the NW has lost its star of the north place and Yorkshire has overtaken it.

This variant is kicking us slowly like a can down the road in the direction of the southern regions and every day we do nothing about it we are closer and closer to seeing numbers like they are seeing down there.

I really hope someone is urgently investigating why Yorkshire has evaded in the main getting this strain.
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They hold on to their brass do the tykes.
So my guess is they keep their hands in their pockets.
 
BlueAnorak said:
400,000 people a day will get vaccine at the start of January. 800,000 people a day will by the end of January (so delivering 400,000 immune people a day).
Everybody over the age of 18 will be done in 5 months according to my IT bud who works for PHE.
That's the plan.
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Fuck me I hope so. That would have the over 50’s and key workers all done by spring. If someone said to me this will be looking really positive by March / April time id rip their hand of for it. Completely understand anyone’s doubting projected numbers based on previous statements throughout this whole thing though, we don’t really have a track record for delivering on targets.
 
on a seperate more adult note my mum who i have been estranged from for several years has been in touch and wants to have a meet up on boxing day. against the rules and i have had to say no tonight. she has barely seen anyone for months and it was tough. she is howver a type 2 daibetic. to make matters worse she is one of those that thinks the vaccine is a bill gates microchip!!

impossible to manage.
 
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shemnel said:
Ok, got a Christmas zoom with the family anti-vaxxer this week and I quite liked this passage from New scientist. However, can someone really dumb this stuff down? To primary level? And what else does the vaccine contain? Mercury is her usual go to.

"The active ingredient is messenger RNA that carries instructions for making the virus’s spike protein, which it uses to gain entry to cells. The mRNA is synthetic, not extracted from actual viruses. It is delivered in a tiny sphere of inert fatty material called a lipid nanoparticle.

The RNA-bearing nanoparticles are suspended in saline solution and injected into muscle tissue in the upper arm. The mRNA is then taken up by specialist immune cells, which follow its instructions to make the spike protein, just as they would do if they had become infected with the actual virus.

The spike protein is recognised as foreign by the immune system, which mounts an attack against it. Antibodies, B cells and T cells are activated, according to Uğur Şahin, the chief executive of the small German company BioNTech that co-developed the vaccine with US drug giant Pfizer. An immune memory is also laid down, he says, which means the immune system has learned how to defeat the pathogen and is primed to mount a swift response if it encounters the coronavirus again."



Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...izer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine/#ixzz6hIXQ3uJK
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mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

The lipids are to allow for the mRNA to easily enter cells, the salts (sodiums) are there to help match the contents with the body (PH level etc). mRNA is difficult to keep stable and has to be kept at very low temperatures.

There is no mercury or other preservative in the Pfizer vaccine.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
Imagining. Exactly.

You keep the current restrictions, there's no christmas shopping to do and you re-introduce shielding for those on the vaccine list with a specific vaccine furlough scheme. Cancel Feb half-term and add a week to the Christmas holidays so you have an extra week of kids off to research the new strain.

Something that doubles every 6 days when 6 days ago the major affected area was still in tier 2 shows you haven't taken due care in your assessment.
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Can the schools not give them homework that is a bit easier and less time consuming? ;)
 
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