Covid and travel discussion

davealvers said:
You don’t need 16 tests - just the 3 per person so I think it’s more realistically:

1 x PCR outbound = £43 with Randox using discount code

1 x local antigen test = €30 with synlabs

1 x PCR day 2 after arrival home = £43 with Randox using discount code

= £113 per person

= £452 total for a family of 4
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thanks for the info.
 
Beckenham Blue said:
Both kids need all the tests.

I'd be interested to know how and where I could get 16 tests done for £300
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As @davealvers post but I think you can do it slightly cheaper by doing antigen on the way out but obviously you would have to check my understanding is correct that they are allowed, that would get it to sub 400.

My kids are 4 and 8, tests we are looking at are about 285 total for the Algarve. When we go to Madeira in 2 weeks it will cost us £129 total for all necessary tests. I've saved considerably more than that on the flights alone.
 
marcus said:
Im not sure and thats the crux of the matter for us.
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Just happened to my son and his wife in Portugal. Due to fly back to London last Wednesday 7th so they go for their Antigen tests on Monday to return to the UK and both test positive. Off they go for a PCR later that day - 2 positive results returned again (my son is doubled jabbed - so wondered if first test was a false positive). the abcense of clear information of what a positive test means/ what you need to do is staggering - so little out there.

24 hours later Portuguese Public Health ask for their details and a GP calls the next day to say - 10 days isolation but they can stay in their accommodation (so no quarantine in Govt hotel) - but no advice on how to source food etc.

GP confirms that they will issue a fit to fly certificate on the 14th July but doesn’t say how and the GP contact numbers are ringing out- so still not clear on how this will be issued or even when -so can’t book flights home.

On returning to the UK Track and Trace confirm it a 10 Day isolation with PCR tests on day 2 and 8 - even if the tests are negative it’s still 10 days in isolation. Only way to shorten isolation is to do the 5 day test release PCR test - getting a negative result(btw after you’ve had COVID you are advised not to get a test for 90 days as you can still post a positive result) - so day 5 test is a total gamble In this scenario.

just to compound matters - My Son was on Flight 12 back from Porto - safe to say he won’t be rushing back to Portugal!
 
kingswoodblue said:
Just happened to my son and his wife in Portugal. Due to fly back to London last Wednesday 7th so they go for their Antigen tests on Monday to return to the UK and both test positive. Off they go for a PCR later that day - 2 positive results returned again (my son is doubled jabbed - so wondered if first test was a false positive). the abcense of clear information of what a positive test means/ what you need to do is staggering - so little out there.

24 hours later Portuguese Public Health ask for their details and a GP calls the next day to say - 10 days isolation but they can stay in their accommodation (so no quarantine in Govt hotel) - but no advice on how to source food etc.

GP confirms that they will issue a fit to fly certificate on the 14th July but doesn’t say how and the GP contact numbers are ringing out- so still not clear on how this will be issued or even when -so can’t book flights home.

On returning to the UK Track and Trace confirm it a 10 Day isolation with PCR tests on day 2 and 8 - even if the tests are negative it’s still 10 days in isolation. Only way to shorten isolation is to do the 5 day test release PCR test - getting a negative result(btw after you’ve had COVID you are advised not to get a test for 90 days as you can still post a positive result) - so day 5 test is a total gamble In this scenario.

just to compound matters - My Son was on Flight 12 back from Porto - safe to say he won’t be rushing back to Portugal!
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Jesus this is the risk isnt it. No matter how small the risk if you test a positive the shit that follows is a nightmare.
ive said all along that its a head/heart battle. And the heads way in front. Stories like yours are only cementing my decision that greece will be there next year …
 
marcus said:
Jesus this is the risk isnt it. No matter how small the risk if you test a positive the shit that follows is a nightmare.
ive said all along that its a head/heart battle. And the heads way in front. Stories like yours are only cementing my decision that greece will be there next year …
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Absolutely Marcus - our holiday to the Dominican was cancelled last week - so started to look at the ’Green Balearics‘ instead as an option - favourite hotel available, flights dirt cheap - then this happens with our Son and as I understand it we’d have been in exactly the same situation if we tested positive abroad - only slight variation is no quarantine after 19th as we are both double jabbed.

This summer feels far worse than last ( when we did get to Majorca).

Most definitely ‘head not heart’ this year
 
Doesn't the red list get updated again on Thursday?

Be a hazard to book a holiday now and find the destination goes red on Thursday
 
So we have our transport minister proudly proclaiming that 30 odd countries will accept brits double jabbed with vaccines made in the Uk, Europe and India but won’t be allowing the same unless they have been vaccinated in the uk so my relatives who live in France and have both had AZ double jabbed have to isolate for the full 10 if they travel over even if on UK passports. Ran by fucking donkeys fuelled by arrogance.
 
discopop said:
So we have our transport minister proudly proclaiming that 30 odd countries will accept brits double jabbed with vaccines made in the Uk, Europe and India but won’t be allowing the same unless they have been vaccinated in the uk so my relatives who live in France and have both had AZ double jabbed have to isolate for the full 10 if they travel over even if on UK passports. Ran by fucking donkeys fuelled by arrogance.
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If I read it correctly, the Yanks won't be letting anyone in if they have had the A.Z jab.
 
Canada have relaxed the travel restrictions so that any Canadian citizen or permanent resident will no longer have to isolate when re entering the country.
They just showed on the news the complete chaos at the airport and the passengers are forced to stay on the plane, out on the tarmac because the arrivals area is completely full. That's the last thing I would want when getting home after a week of boozing in the sun.
 
Oldham Exile said:
Doesn't the red list get updated again on Thursday?

Be a hazard to book a holiday now and find the destination goes red on Thursday
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Yep, should be another announcement (or more likely leak then announcement) on Thursday.

Unless people are looking at relatively obscure holiday destinations, there shouldn't be any obvious bucket and spade places going from amber to red next week.

Turkey looks a candidate for promotion to Amber.
Italy and France rumoured to be going green.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the Balearic Islands relegated to amber, cases have sadly but inevitably spiked over there, particularly Majorca.
Can see Indonesia going red before long.
Rumours Dubai might get amber status but I can't see it happening anytime soon due to the transit/hub problem.

As always, worth remembering the traffic light system is relevant for inbound travel only. Italy might go green but it's still 5 day quarantine for arrivals from the UK at present.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
Yep, should be another announcement (or more likely leak then announcement) on Thursday.

Unless people are looking at relatively obscure holiday destinations, there shouldn't be any obvious bucket and spade places going from amber to red next week.

Turkey looks a candidate for promotion to Amber.
Italy and France rumoured to be going green.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the Balearic Islands relegated to amber, cases have sadly but inevitably spiked over there, particularly Majorca.
Can see Indonesia going red before long.
Rumours Dubai might get amber status but I can't see it happening anytime soon due to the transit/hub problem.

As always, worth remembering the traffic light system is relevant for inbound travel only. Italy might go green but it's still 5 day quarantine for arrivals from the UK at present.
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Being utterly selfish thankfully Majorca going Amber wouldn’t impact my trip as I fly on the 20th day after the new double jabbed thing comes in for Amber

The Turkey decision if it happens is odd as that was being used as a back door by people returning from India to avoid Government ran hotel isolation
 
discopop said:
Being utterly selfish thankfully Majorca going Amber wouldn’t impact my trip as I fly on the 20th day after the new double jabbed thing comes in for Amber

The Turkey decision if it happens is odd as that was being used as a back door by people returning from India to avoid Government ran hotel isolation
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Yeah Turkey does indeed have a similar problem to UAE, as Istanbul is such a global hub for flights.
Cases were very high in Turkey but have fallen a lot; rumours doing the rounds it will get amber status either next week or the following review but that remains to be seen. I kinda think the Gov will be cautious with it but it seems caution goes out the window from the 19th here so it's anyone's guess!

It's high time we get some Greek islands on the green list; places like Kos and Santorini are barely recording any new cases, and although cases in Greece are on the rise (as is most of Europe) this is mostly the mainland.

Croatia really should go green as well (so probably won't)
 
feedthegoat27 said:
Yeah Turkey does indeed have a similar problem to UAE, as Istanbul is such a global hub for flights.
Cases were very high in Turkey but have fallen a lot; rumours doing the rounds it will get amber status either next week or the following review but that remains to be seen. I kinda think the Gov will be cautious with it but it seems caution goes out the window from the 19th here so it's anyone's guess!

It's high time we get some Greek islands on the green list; places like Kos and Santorini are barely recording any new cases, and although cases in Greece are on the rise (as is most of Europe) this is mostly the mainland.

Croatia really should go green as well (so probably won't)
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Delta is out and free so but as you say 19th is open season so Greece will be de facto open. My trip has been rescheduled four or five times and bizarrely enough I just want it out of the way now as the stress of cat herding the other three lads who I will be cycling with over there every time we have to rebook is driving me to more drink
 
feedthegoat27 said:
Yep, should be another announcement (or more likely leak then announcement) on Thursday.

Unless people are looking at relatively obscure holiday destinations, there shouldn't be any obvious bucket and spade places going from amber to red next week.

Turkey looks a candidate for promotion to Amber.
Italy and France rumoured to be going green.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the Balearic Islands relegated to amber, cases have sadly but inevitably spiked over there, particularly Majorca.
Can see Indonesia going red before long.
Rumours Dubai might get amber status but I can't see it happening anytime soon due to the transit/hub problem.

As always, worth remembering the traffic light system is relevant for inbound travel only. Italy might go green but it's still 5 day quarantine for arrivals from the UK at present.
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Had been planning to go to Cyprus on Saturday - but friends out there tell me cases are going through the roof and they think they will go on the red list

I have Greece as a back up plan
 
Oldham Exile said:
Had been planning to go to Cyprus on Saturday - but friends out there tell me cases are going through the roof and they think they will go on the red list

I have Greece as a back up plan
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I think Cyprus have the most rolling cases per 100k in Europe at the moment, would say definitely a good chance they go from amber to red.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Cyprus introduce more local restrictions as well, not sure how fun a holiday would be out there at the moment.

Greece is always good.
 
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