Cracker

aphex said:
m7mcfc said:
Wrong it took an IRA bomb for the City to undergo a total revamp but I often wonder would we have the Manchester city centre we know today if it never happened? What I am asking is were there any plans to regenerate what was basically a shithole pre 1996 or was the transformation into a vibrant modern city centre only a result of the bomb.

regardless of what you think (even if there were no plans before) they stumped up a hell of a lot of money

do you think it would have been the same under a tory government?

<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5036258.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5036258.stm</a>

'The plans were certainly accelerated by the bomb, but it wasn't the sole factor for change.

Improvements had already been made to the G-MEX, the MEN Arena, the area around Castlefield, The Bridgewater Hall, and the Great Northern warehouse on Deansgate.

And the city's Olympic bids in 1984 and 1990 were important catalysts for change.

By the time Manchester hosted the Commonwealth Games in 2002, it was a city ready to show the rest of the world how far it had come.'

Good points there Aphex, so the result was just a speeding up of what was badly needing doing anyway. If anyone asks for me on my views on this again that it was I will tell them.
 
aphex said:
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
Why tout your filthy views on an unrelated thread. I suggest you make another thread thanking the IRA if you want to talk about Manchesters renaissance.....

Oh and for the record I'd do without a new John Lewis or River Island rather than see this country driven into record debts by Liebour (again)

so my views are wrong that they didn't invest a lot into the city?

the way you go on about manchester, you'd think you would be glad of the regeneration. but again your clueless rants are at best, abject.

so do you think rooney should join cracker?
 
de niro said:
aphex said:
so my views are wrong that they didn't invest a lot into the city?

the way you go on about manchester, you'd think you would be glad of the regeneration. but again your clueless rants are at best, abject.

so do you think rooney should join cracker?

the lad can't join two words together...
 
aphex said:
m7mcfc said:
Wrong it took an IRA bomb for the City to undergo a total revamp but I often wonder would we have the Manchester city centre we know today if it never happened? What I am asking is were there any plans to regenerate what was basically a shithole pre 1996 or was the transformation into a vibrant modern city centre only a result of the bomb.

regardless of what you think (even if there were no plans before) they stumped up a hell of a lot of money

do you think it would have been the same under a tory government?

<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5036258.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5036258.stm</a>

'The plans were certainly accelerated by the bomb, but it wasn't the sole factor for change.[/b]

Improvements had already been made to the G-MEX, the MEN Arena, the area around Castlefield, The Bridgewater Hall, and the Great Northern warehouse on Deansgate.

And the city's Olympic bids in 1984 and 1990 were important catalysts for change.

By the time Manchester hosted the Commonwealth Games in 2002, it was a city ready to show the rest of the world how far it had come.'


And the bomb (and therefore the plans that were accelerated) were made during CONSERVATIVE rule not Liebour.....New Liebour came into power in 1997 a whole year later my friend.


Once again another posted has been schooled by BB2.0 and realises that he/she must get up very early in the morning to get one over this poster
 
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
aphex said:
regardless of what you think (even if there were no plans before) they stumped up a hell of a lot of money

do you think it would have been the same under a tory government?

<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5036258.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5036258.stm</a>

'The plans were certainly accelerated by the bomb, but it wasn't the sole factor for change.[/b]

Improvements had already been made to the G-MEX, the MEN Arena, the area around Castlefield, The Bridgewater Hall, and the Great Northern warehouse on Deansgate.

And the city's Olympic bids in 1984 and 1990 were important catalysts for change.

By the time Manchester hosted the Commonwealth Games in 2002, it was a city ready to show the rest of the world how far it had come.'


And the bomb (and therefore the plans that were accelerated) were made during CONSERVATIVE rule not Liebour.....New Liebour came into power in 1997 a whole year later my friend.


Once again another posted has been schooled by BB2.0 and realises that he/she must get up very early in the morning to get one over this poster


started of by the torys

bankrolled by labour

i could pull the wool over your eyes in my sleep sonny.
 
aphex said:
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
And the bomb (and therefore the plans that were accelerated) were made during CONSERVATIVE rule not Liebour.....New Liebour came into power in 1997 a whole year later my friend.


Once again another posted has been schooled by BB2.0 and realises that he/she must get up very early in the morning to get one over this poster

started of by the torys

bankrolled by labour

i could pull the wool over your eyes in my sleep sonny.

Right so the big bad tories, agreed to the spending and acted AFTER the bomb- as they were then not in power Liebour continued the investment.....as I said you have been put to the sword on this one, if you are going to tell lies don't try and pull the wool over my eyes because Ill catch you out everytime sunshine.
 
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
aphex said:
started of by the torys

bankrolled by labour

i could pull the wool over your eyes in my sleep sonny.

Right so the big bad tories, agreed to the spending and acted AFTER the bomb- as they were then not in power Liebour continued the investment.....as I said you have been put to the sword on this one, if you are going to tell lies don't try and pull the wool over my eyes because Ill catch you out everytime sunshine.

right

when the city was ravaged by the bomb, any government would had to pump money into the city as it was a mess. it had been blown up for gods sake

i don't see how you have put me to the sword on this, i really don't. i haven't mentioned the tories in that sense. i do think that the amount of money that was put into building manchester into what it is is owed to labour - without a doubt. it was a way of repaying the north for getting them into power

it simply wouldn't have happened on the same scale under a tory government

have your sword back brookie.
 
scowy68 said:
Excellent show.i have the box set at home along with prime suspect another quality show.Thought the later one's we're a bit weaker when Mcgovern stopped writing the stories.

Bloody ell, it didn't even get to the end of the first page before the heated debates started.

I saw one the other day, the Hillsbrough one, and realised how great it was. I've Sky+'d them and hope to catch up with them all soon. Absolutely brilliant programme.
 
scall said:
scowy68 said:
Excellent show.i have the box set at home along with prime suspect another quality show.Thought the later one's we're a bit weaker when Mcgovern stopped writing the stories.

Bloody ell, it didn't even get to the end of the first page before the heated debates started.

I saw one the other day, the Hillsbrough one, and realised how great it was. I've Sky+'d them and hope to catch up with them all soon. Absolutely brilliant programme.

One of my fav shows don't get me wrong,just thought the standards dropped a bit when mcgovern stopped writing.
 

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