Craig Bellamy

[Dancini]

Is it acceptable though if we don't get the swing decision that will cost us 2 or 3 points?
Should we keep on coddling him then at the expense of a 4th. place or can we at least persuade him to change his ways and suck it up for the team?

I get what you're saying mate but mentality is a huge part of football. Darren Fletcher is a good player mainly down to just being a persistant fuck and Robinho poor because hes a bit of a pussy, you could say we might lose 4th because the likes of Barry and De Jong aren't more like him but in reality you can't change it mid way through a season.

 

[Carl_Man_City]

Exactly thats how he plays and it won't change. Referee's don't like it and were just going to have to deal with it. Its not the only time hes had decisions go against him and it won' be the last.

Is it acceptable though if we don't get the swing decision that will cost us 2 or 3 points?
Should we keep on coddling him then at the expense of a 4th. place or can we at least persuade him to change his ways and suck it up for the team?

Bellamys Bellamy mate he wont change you look at his positives and negatives and make a decision on whether he should be in the team. Balance them up for me and hes still good enough for top 4

 

[Dancini]

Bellamys Bellamy mate he wont change you look at his positives and negatives and make a decision on whether he should be in the team. Balance them up for me and hes still good enough for top 4

Yeah this.

Next year in the (hopefully) big European nights he'll be a god send as long as he keeps the golf clubs at home.

 

[dom]

Bellamy for me .. all day long.

 

[mackenzie]

Bellamy for me .. all day long.

Me too.

We are so badly lacking any other players with tenacity, bite and talent.

 

[melons]

I think it's easy to lose sight of the fact that Gordon in nets for Sunderland today had a massive game and without his positioning and a bit of good fortune, we could have won that 4 or 5-1.
Some games are like that but whenever Bellamy's not in the starting line up I'm gutted. I always think how I'd feel if I was the opposition lining up against City and who I'd be afraid of and it's that tenacious little bastard who'd put the fear into me every time.

 

[foolsgold*]

I, for one would not like to see Bellamy left out the team... The whole team seemed deatbeat in the first half but ran the show in the second half and if anyone else rather than RSC were at the end of the balls passed we could have won easily 4-1...

 

[Dancini]

I'm not suggesting we leave him out because, really, he is still a lot better than Petrov. I just wonder why he seems to be able to single handedly rip top 4 teams to shreds (2 against United, 2 against Chelsea, a goal and an assist against Arsenal) but not do the same against some lower teams.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

The shooting, it was unbelievably tame, straight at the keeper and no power in it, could have belted the ball harder myself and I'm 45 and knackered !!

Are you referring to the one he smashed towards the corner where the keeper would have had no chance but it got deflected onto the keeper's foot?

Or the one where he hit it cleanly running in from the left but the keeper got his legs to it?

Remind me of the tame one please.

 

[mackenzie]

I'm not suggesting we leave him out because, really, he is still a lot better than Petrov. I just wonder why he seems to be able to single handedly rip top 4 teams to shreds (2 against United, 2 against Chelsea, a goal and an assist against Arsenal) but not do the same against some lower teams.

I agree. He has never really settled at any one club though. It seems indicative of a player that blows hot and cold.

Still love him though, and I hope he stays with us for at least the next two seasons.

 

[Sun Jihai's ghost]

Just Ctrl + F'd "Bellamy" and couldn't find a thread so apologies if there is a thread.

How can someone be world class against the top teams but perform so averagely against the lower sides? Its not even for want of trying, he just can't seem to do it against them. I am genuinely clueless on this one, would appreciate some light being shed.

Excellent question, i doubt you'll get an answer.

 

[blumoonrisen]

Just Ctrl + F'd "Bellamy" and couldn't find a thread so apologies if there is a thread.

How can someone be world class against the top teams but perform so averagely against the lower sides? Its not even for want of trying, he just can't seem to do it against them. I am genuinely clueless on this one, would appreciate some light being shed.

Nuff said...

But ask any match going regular who our player of the season is and they will say either Bellers or Tevez so pick someone else to "question"

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

Just Ctrl + F'd "Bellamy" and couldn't find a thread so apologies if there is a thread.

How can someone be world class against the top teams but perform so averagely against the lower sides? Its not even for want of trying, he just can't seem to do it against them. I am genuinely clueless on this one, would appreciate some light being shed.

Excellent question, i doubt you'll get an answer.

What determines whether someone is world class or a performance is world class? Against the scum he scored two fantastic goals. World class finishes no doubt.

Against Chelsea he scored 2 again. 1 the keeper should have saved and the other a simple tap in with no defence around.Maybe not world class on this occasion.

Against Sunderland he had one of those chances coming in from the left but the keeper made a top save with his legs. Does that suddenly mean he is crap or even average. The movement was great and the finish denied by a keeper having one of those days(had Gordon been in goal for the scum or Chelsea he might have stopped them as well.

And Bellers had another shot which was definitely going in but deflected onto the keepers foot.On another day with any good fortune he was have been lauded as scoring a great goal and saving the team but it didnt go in so lets just say he was poor and can only do it against big sides. Did he not score against Stoke the other week?

You can't score every time and that doesnt detract from his effort and contribution. It wasnt his best game for sure but while we were piling it on he was in the thick of it and arguably unlucky not to score but if it feels better to have a go at him why not.

 

[Sun Jihai's ghost]

Excellent question, i doubt you'll get an answer.

What determines whether someone is world class or a performance is world class? Against the scum he scored two fantastic goals. World class finishes no doubt.

Against Chelsea he scored 2 again. 1 the keeper should have saved and the other a simple tap in with no defence around.Maybe not world class on this occasion.

Against Sunderland he had one of those chances coming in from the left but the keeper made a top save with his legs. Does that suddenly mean he is crap or even average. The movement was great and the finish denied by a keeper having one of those days(had Gordon been in goal for the scum or Chelsea he might have stopped them as well.

And Bellers had another shot which was definitely going in but deflected onto the keepers foot.On another day with any good fortune he was have been lauded as scoring a great goal and saving the team but it didnt go in so lets just say he was poor and can only do it against big sides. Did he not score against Stoke the other week?

You can't score every time and that doesnt detract from his effort and contribution. It wasnt his best game for sure but while we were piling it on he was in the thick of it and arguably unlucky not to score but if it feels better to have a go at him why not.

Very reasonable comments, cant disagree. But he does seem to play a lot better against the top sides than the mediocre sides. Compare that with someone like Ireland who dissapears against the top sides but looks like a world beater against the lessor sides. Its a reasonable question the OP askes. Bellamy has been brilliant this season, second best player after Tevez IMO, but sometimes he does dissapear....but never against the better sides.

 

[Nelly's Left Foot]

What determines whether someone is world class or a performance is world class? Against the scum he scored two fantastic goals. World class finishes no doubt.

Against Chelsea he scored 2 again. 1 the keeper should have saved and the other a simple tap in with no defence around.Maybe not world class on this occasion.

Against Sunderland he had one of those chances coming in from the left but the keeper made a top save with his legs. Does that suddenly mean he is crap or even average. The movement was great and the finish denied by a keeper having one of those days(had Gordon been in goal for the scum or Chelsea he might have stopped them as well.

And Bellers had another shot which was definitely going in but deflected onto the keepers foot.On another day with any good fortune he was have been lauded as scoring a great goal and saving the team but it didnt go in so lets just say he was poor and can only do it against big sides. Did he not score against Stoke the other week?

You can't score every time and that doesnt detract from his effort and contribution. It wasnt his best game for sure but while we were piling it on he was in the thick of it and arguably unlucky not to score but if it feels better to have a go at him why not.

Very reasonable comments, cant disagree. But he does seem to play a lot better against the top sides than the mediocre sides. Compare that with someone like Ireland who dissapears against the top sides but looks like a world beater against the lessor sides. Its a reasonable question the OP askes. Bellamy has been brilliant this season, second best player after Tevez IMO, but sometimes he does dissapear....but never against the better sides.

But that last point is where I disagree.I don't think Bellamy ever disappears whereas Ireland does and has most of this season sadly.
Bellemy might not have a great game and the end product ( the great goal or cross) might not be quite right but his effort is always there and his threat is always there

 

[Sun Jihai's ghost]

Very reasonable comments, cant disagree. But he does seem to play a lot better against the top sides than the mediocre sides. Compare that with someone like Ireland who dissapears against the top sides but looks like a world beater against the lessor sides. Its a reasonable question the OP askes. Bellamy has been brilliant this season, second best player after Tevez IMO, but sometimes he does dissapear....but never against the better sides.

But that last point is where I disagree.I don't think Bellamy ever disappears whereas Ireland does and has most of this season sadly.
Bellemy might not have a great game and the end product ( the great goal or cross) might not be quite right but his effort is always there and his threat is always there

Agreed, sorry dissapear is probably not the right word. Dont get me wrong unless his form takes a radical nosedive I'd start Bellamy every match...but it is true of his play that he seems to elevate himself to a higher level against the best sides. Thats a credit to him as a player, maybe its the lessor teams that mark him out of a game...or send out the instructions that are the cause, but I have to agree with the OP Bellamy is a better player against the top sides than those in the bottom half. Its definately not through lack of effort, maybe opposition instructions...but i do agree with the OP he plays better against the best sides...and that is no critisism of Bellamy just an opinion.

 

[Craig]

He had a bad game today and so did Carlos.Makes me laugh though some of this shit recently when Bellers has bad game.He's as much a left winger as Richards is a footballer and SWP(City are mugging my son off)can keep the ball.The fact he has been one of our best players this season is fantastic on his part after playing out of position.

 

[sweep]

But that last point is where I disagree.I don't think Bellamy ever disappears whereas Ireland does and has most of this season sadly.
Bellemy might not have a great game and the end product ( the great goal or cross) might not be quite right but his effort is always there and his threat is always there

Agreed, sorry dissapear is probably not the right word. Dont get me wrong unless his form takes a radical nosedive I'd start Bellamy every match...but it is true of his play that he seems to elevate himself to a higher level against the best sides. Thats a credit to him as a player, maybe its the lessor teams that mark him out of a game...or send out the instructions that are the cause, but I have to agree with the OP Bellamy is a better player against the top sides than those in the bottom half. Its definately not through lack of effort, maybe opposition instructions...but i do agree with the OP he plays better against the best sides...and that is no critisism of Bellamy just an opinion.

I think you can say the same about most of our squad TBH, I think it's partly down to mentality. Also partly down to our ability on the ball, our quality of touch and speed of thought limit us more when playing against sides who are quick to close us down and don't allow us space, our squad is a bit unbalanced and is weighted more towards workrate than quality.

 

[Freestyler]

contributed a bit, should of scored though, was a bit greedy at times, if he would of looked up he had 1 or 2 passes available to him, one of his off days today, nothing went for him,

but he carried on till the end like the bellers we all know and made an impact for out belated equaliser.

 

[ZanteWeatherman]

I, for one would not like to see Bellamy left out the team... The whole team seemed deatbeat in the first half but ran the show in the second half and if anyone else rather than RSC were at the end of the balls passed we could have won easily 4-1...

IIRC RSC missed 1, SWP likewise, Bellers 2 or 3, and Tevez 1. But I suppose RSC is the new whipping boy. Look no further than our Miami boys for poor performances on the day, well, first half anyway. Happily, none of them finished the match - no idea why !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gordon won't have a game like that if he plays til he's 156, just one of those days (Foy was wank too).