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[jay_mcfc]

England bowled beautifully this evening. Top test match this, NZ are very, very good. England have a lot of talented but unproven batsmen. Time to start getting the runs.

This has been the first test match I’ve watched in a long time where there’s been two seriously dubious hawk eye decisions. Sibley yin the first innings and Williamson tonight were never out.

 

[ancoats]

The umpire says out or not out. He does not explain why.

Using your method makes reviews irrelevant as you’d always go with the umpire’s decision.

what i was trying to say is the umpire is normally 98% right on tight calls
the DRS reviews are based on the umpire having a shocker. also the umpire call takes out any chance of being overturned

i don't think england are a good test team or have any setup or plans in place. to many changes before a big ashes in the winter only makes things worst come the time to pick the final squad for the ashes ?

do we have a spinner bedded in the team ? the opening pair are still not set in stone ? the wicket keeper place ?
fast bowlers fit ? anderson and broad ?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

what i was trying to say is the umpire is normally 98% right on tight calls
the DRS reviews are based on the umpire having a shocker. also the umpire call takes out any chance of being overturned

i don't think england are a good test team or have any setup or plans in place. to many changes before a big ashes in the winter only makes things worst come the time to pick the final squad for the ashes ?

do we have a spinner bedded in the team ? the opening pair are still not set in stone ? the wicket keeper place ?
fast bowlers fit ? anderson and broad ?

The DRS system is in place for bad calls. Each side currently gets 3 an innings. As shown tonight 2 decisions in 2 balls were overturned by the minutest of margins. Umpire‘s call does not take out the chance of it being overturned. You can hardly call them umpiring errors as they were both so marginal.

Root can only go off his bowler and keeper’s opinions of the ball pitching outside leg stump for a right handed bowler bowling over the wicket to a left hander as the batsman’s body is in the way of his line of sight.

I actually thought the one they got overturned was more of a bad decision as Root didn’t think it was out and “backed his bowler”.

How good the rest of the team isn’t relevant to what we were debating.

 

[ancoats]

The DRS system is in place for bad calls. Each side currently gets 3 an innings. As shown tonight 2 decisions in 2 balls were overturned by the minutest of margins. Umpire‘s call does not take out the chance of it being overturned. You can hardly call them umpiring errors as they were both so marginal.

Root can only go off his bowler and keeper’s opinions of the ball pitching outside leg stump for a right handed bowler bowling over the wicket to a left hander as the batsman’s body is in the way of his line of sight.

I actually thought the one they got overturned was more of a bad decision as Root didn’t think it was out and “backed his bowler”.

How good the rest of the team isn’t relevant to what we were debating.

but again have trust in the umpire ? root should have just asked anderson was it tight going down the legside and trust the umpire call. look am picking little things out that mean nothing really because england can not win it

captains should trust the umpire more on LBW pitching outside leg stump. because it would take a whopper of a mistake by the umpire to get it over turned

(How good the rest of the team isn’t relevant to what we were debating)
your right. but every chance i get to have a pop at root and the ECB selectors i will bite hahahaha

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

but again have trust in the umpire ? root should have just asked anderson was it tight going down the legside and trust the umpire call. look am picking little things out that mean nothing really because england can not win it

captains should trust the umpire more on LBW pitching outside leg stump. because it would take a whopper of a mistake by the umpire to get it over turned

(How good the rest of the team isn’t relevant to what we were debating)
your right. but every chance i get to have a pop at root and the ECB selectors i will bite hahahaha

The review process is there for bad and marginal calls. If it’s classed as umpire’s call, that team doesn’t lose their review.

Teams use this rule to challenge tight calls and gain advantage. Part of why Root will have rolled the dice on Williamson’s LBW was that it WAS Williamson and getting him out is huge.

Pitching outside leg stump is an easier one to gauge and Anderson made the wrong call. If he told Root that it was definitely out, then what can Root do, having not seen it? He backed his bowler. His bowler was wrong.

Its the same in tennis. Players use them tactically as well as when they genuinely think the call is wrong.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

England bowled beautifully this evening. Top test match this, NZ are very, very good. England have a lot of talented but unproven batsmen. Time to start getting the runs.

This has been the first test match I’ve watched in a long time where there’s been two seriously dubious hawk eye decisions. Sibley yin the first innings and Williamson tonight were never out.

That one tonight surprised everyone. Looked like it was going well wide in real time.

 

[jay_mcfc]

That one tonight surprised everyone. Looked like it was going well wide in real time.

And on replay, slow-mo, live. Still completely convinced that wasn't hitting the stumps. Same for Sibley's yesterday. I wonder if the straight on camera is at a slightly strange angle because I am flummoxed by both of them.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Why haven't they declared?

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Why haven't they declared?

I know England's batting is suspect at times but it's not that bad.

 

[Citizen Mike]

they will declare at lunch or when they reach a lead of 300