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Wasn’t even 11am and got out pathetic in every way this England side last two test matches like they didn’t give toss just get through them and one team desperate to win was outstanding on all departments especially there discipline!
Yeah, lack of discipline and concentration is currently a big problem.
 
Put it on dead on 11am they were walking of lost the last wicket already shambles starting before 11am match should now be void
 
while it's obviously true, Vaughan's overriding goal appears to be to criticise everything such that he gets to run English cricket.

maybe its what should happen get cricket people back in cricket
20/20 and ODI and the new 100s should be a different sport to test cricket
maybe have 2 governing bodies for both codes

test cricket at this rate will be gone in 5 years if we keep bringing new forms like the 100s just for money
maybe there is a case for change in test cricket and try and bring it into 21s century.
but the day night test don't work for me because of the dew and the gap between day and night

4 day test maybe ? maybe result test and take out the draw ? maybe power plays ? maximum 90 overs each innings ?
but Vaughan's is right about not have a clueless and the ashes have already been lost
 
“If England have any chance of winning in Australia, this batting line-up has to get used to making big, big scores” So says Michael Vaughan.

I love that ‘get used to’.

Indeed. If humanity is to have any chance of making it to inhabitable planets in other solar systems, indeed other galaxies, before it destroys this one, it needs to get used to making very, very quick rockets.
 
Test cricket is without doubt my favourite format.

I'd hate to see it fade away and become something they can't be bothered with.

It's great that we have excellent players in the shorter forms of the game, but the five day cricket will always be my preference. Not that England often take the game to the fifth day :(
 
I know it’s not the only factor (NZ are #1 for a reason), but this result was in part spawned when we neglected to chase a tough but getable target. That ‘defeatist/we’re not good enough to get’ attitude tends to stick.
I agree on an overriding approach to the game - if we end up getting beat we will atleast go out playing the way we believe the game should be played etc.

May not produce anything in the short term but I agree as a mindset to the game - New Zealand would have chased it.............
 
Should be a stipulation that IPl players consequently make themselves unavailable for England.
If they chase the money to play an inferior slog version of cricket; so be it. Tells you about them and their motivation.
 
They have 5 tests vs India to get this shit right before they go to Australia or else it'll be another 5-0 whitewash
Not professing(sp?) to have the answers and I can understand why they don't want to have huge back-to-back overseas tours, but regardless of how well the team are performing, how can it be good preparation to play at home with the ball swinging all over the place and then going to Australia to compete in completely different conditions?

No similarities between the two set ups - doesn't make any sense to me..............
 
New Zealand are a better team than us right now.
There's a reason why they're playing the World Test Championship Final soon.

We have some good young talent that needs to be coached and mature. In particular with the bat.

Bringing back Stokes and Buttler will make a big difference.
 
Should be a stipulation that IPl players consequently make themselves unavailable for England.
If they chase the money to play an inferior slog version of cricket; so be it. Tells you about them and their motivation.
I don't see why they can't do both? This is the ECB trying to rest and rotate the IPL players, I'm sure if Buttler, Moeen, Bairstow etc. had the chance to play for England this past fortnight instead of playing in the Blast then they would have.
 
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