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BringBackSwales said:
Fuckett and Crawley against Starc Hazelwood and Cummins! Not sure I’ll be staying up all night for that “fun”
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The criticism of Duckett is unjustified. Statistically, he’s been one of the best openers in test cricket in the past year.

Pope gone now. You suspect a lot rests on this next partnership.
 
jimharri said:
Smith has a test average of 53 (14 tests). Including 184 not out in the second test against India. The highest score by an England wk in test matches, and the highest score by a batsman coming in at number 7 in England's test history.


Half of that would be very welcome!
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I think we’re doomed Jim. Should have won this test and should have won the last. Unfortunately we can’t bat, bowl, or catch, very well
 
jimharri said:
Surely, a decent batsman adapts his style to suit the prevailing circumstances? At the start of play, 2 rpo would do the job. Boycott mode. No need to play at anything that doesn't need to be played.
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That’s not how it works though. You’d never expect Kevin Pietersen to go into Boycott mode.

Players have strengths and weaknesses as well as styles of play. Duckett is never going to be a blocker.
 
Dr Jacoby said:
The criticism of Duckett is unjustified. Statistically, he’s been one of the best openers in test cricket in the past year.

Pope gone now. You suspect a lot rests on this next partnership.
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It is fair. An opening batsman doesn’t know how to leave a ball and rarely makes a big 100 is not good enough for me. However he does come off occasionally, is a likeable character and there may be nobody else better (nobody else gets a chance so I don’t know as I only watch div 2 Lancs at county level). Whatever I say they will both be our openers for the Ashes but if we tames Starc Cummins and Hazelwood I’ll de delighted to be proved wrong. I’m not holding my breath
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
That’s not how it works though. You’d never expect Kevin Pietersen to go into Boycott mode.

Players have strengths and weaknesses as well as styles of play. Duckett is never going to be a blocker.
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That shows a lack of awareness to the situation the side is in, in my opinion. Not going to matter anyway; this'll be over at tea time.
 
BringBackSwales said:
It is fair. An opening batsman doesn’t know how to leave a ball and rarely makes a big 100 is not good enough for me. However he does come off occasionally, is a likeable character and there may be nobody else better (nobody else gets a chance so I don’t know as I only watch div 2 Lancs at county level). Whatever I say they will both be our openers for the Ashes but if we tames Starc Cummins and Hazelwood I’ll de delighted to be proved wrong. I’m not holding my breath
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He averages 42 as an opener. That’s 3 less than Alistair Cook.

He’s a dead cert to play whenever he’s available.
 
BringBackSwales said:
It is fair. An opening batsman doesn’t know how to leave a ball and rarely makes a big 100 is not good enough for me. However he does come off occasionally, is a likeable character and there may be nobody else better (nobody else gets a chance so I don’t know as I only watch div 2 Lancs at county level). Whatever I say they will both be our openers for the Ashes but if we tames Starc Cummins and Hazelwood I’ll de delighted to be proved wrong. I’m not holding my breath
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In 38 test matches, he’s averaging 43.2 with a strike rate of over 86.

With the exception of Jaiswal and possibly Khawaja, there isn’t a better opener in test cricket at the moment.

I don’t think anyone can deny he’s a better player than the likes of Jennings, Burns, Hameed and Sibley.
 
jimharri said:
That shows a lack of awareness to the situation the side is in, in my opinion. Not going to matter anyway; this'll be over at tea time.
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Horses for courses though, to be fair.
It’s a bit like moaning at city for not playing 8 at the back when they go 1-0 up. We haven’t got the players to do it and this cricket team isn’t built to score 200 or less in a day, or leave the ball alone outside off stump.
I’d choose losing like this to losing with players playing like Tavare and Boycott!
 
Dr Jacoby said:
In 38 test matches, he’s averaging 43.2 with a strike rate of over 86.

With the exception of Jaiswal and possibly Khawaja, there isn’t a better opener in test cricket at the moment.

I don’t think anyone can deny he’s a better player than the likes of Jennings, Burns, Hameed and Sibley.
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Mixing in a bit with the other thread. England have struggled with decent openers since Trescothick and Strauss stopped playing. And looking at their stats they aren't too dissimilar to Duckett anyway.

I think with Duckett you have to look at what he achieves in an innings not how he gets out. Despite a disappointing dismissal today he still scored 54 runs.
 
Dr Jacoby said:
In 38 test matches, he’s averaging 43.2 with a strike rate of over 86.

With the exception of Jaiswal and possibly Khawaja, there isn’t a better opener in test cricket at the moment.

I don’t think anyone can deny he’s a better player than the likes of Jennings, Burns, Hameed and Sibley.
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Can you send me a link where I can see who his scores were against? I don’t see anything of the other guys apart from Jenninhs occasionally. You are probably right that there is no English opener making a case, and I think Crawley is a bigger problem than Duckett tbf. Pope is a problem too. I would personally be thinking about developing Brook or even Stokes to open and getting Bethell into the team. But I take your point maybe these two are as good as it gets. At least they stay fit, unlike most of our fast bowlers (why are Starc Cummins and Hazelwood always fit and ours not?).
 
crooky said:
Mixing in a bit with the other thread. England have struggled with decent openers since Trescothick and Strauss stopped playing. And looking at their stats they aren't too dissimilar to Duckett anyway.

I think with Duckett you have to look at what he achieves in an innings not how he gets out. Despite a disappointing dismissal today he still scored 54 runs.
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That’s a little harsh on Cook!
 
BringBackSwales said:
Can you send me a link where I can see who his scores were against? I don’t see anything of the other guys apart from Jenninhs occasionally. You are probably right that there is no English opener making a case, and I think Crawley is a bigger problem than Duckett tbf. Pope is a problem too. I would personally be thinking about developing Brook or even Stokes to open and getting Bethell into the team. But I take your point maybe these two are as good as it gets. At least they stay fit, unlike most of our fast bowlers (why are Starc Cummins and Hazelwood always fit and ours not?).
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Yeh very brave and all that Harry but we can’t win with a shot a ball. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing
 
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