I’d hazard a guess the woman in her 60s will turn out to be one of the men’s mothers and it was her house that got raided.
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Crumpsall Synagogue Attack - two people confirmed dead, one inadvertently shot by police along with the suspect
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I’d hazard a guess the woman in her 60s will turn out to be one of the men’s mothers and it was her house that got raided.
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All social media needs fucking off, it's a cancer on society oh and a way to spy.on everyone who uses it
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A very appropriate first name.Greater Manchester Police has named the person it believes is responsible for today's attack as 35-year-old Jihad Al-Shamie.
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Doesn't mean any of them were involved (but obviously could be).I’d hazard a guess the woman in her 60s will turn out to be one of the men’s mothers and it was her house that got raided.
He drove his car into the situation, and a controlled explosion was carried out on it, so his address would probably be easily traced, seems like only a couple of streets away, so they immediately went round and detained the occupants.
So maybe he believed his explosives were 'viable', I mean if he went in his own car he obviously wasn't expecting to have to worry about surviving and getting caught. I know it's stating the obvious but your post just brought it home to me, he wasn't planning on being home for tea.Doesn't mean any of them were involved (but obviously could be).
He drove his car into the situation, and a controlled explosion was carried out on it, so his address would probably be easily traced, seems like only a couple of streets away, so they immediately went round and detained the occupants.
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I totally agree with you, I’m just pointing out that matches against Israel don’t equate to marches against Judaism, or shouldn’t.The problem is that after so many years of equating criticism of Israel to anti-semitism, it seems like people looking to attack Israel now feel they can satisfy their bloodlust by targetting completely innocent Jewish people with no affiliation to Israel. It's a fucking awful situation we've ended up in and I can only imagine how terrifying it must be for British Jews to be targetted for the actions of a government you have nothing to do with.
God only knows how you break that link in the minds of future attackers, because you're not dealing with people of sound mind, and there's a lot of people with vested interests in promoting division and radicalisation, whether that's foreign powers, terror organisations or social media companies profiting from the "engagement".
X shareholders are making money off people viewing those videos circulating today and the millions of arguments that will follow on the platform.
cleavers
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Maybe he did, thankfully they weren't viable, but he clearly went there to stab people either way, a terrible way to kill innocent people, he also drove at people, presumably the security they have to stop this kind of event.So maybe he believed his explosives were 'viable', I mean if he went in his own car he obviously wasn't expecting to have to worry about surviving and getting caught. I know it's stating the obvious but your post just brought it home to me, he wasn't planning on being home for tea.
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A very appropriate first name.
That’s both simultaneously true and anything but.
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Should automatically be on some terror watch list if you’re called that.A very appropriate first name.
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Should automatically be on some terror watch list if you’re called that.
As much as I get a lot of people might think that, it really shouldn’t. It doesn’t have the meaning you think it does.
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& The fact we gave him a passport, the clue is in the nameA very appropriate first name.
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Late to this. My thoughts are with the victims and their families.
Let me know when you find it!We must find a place where there is less hatred in the world. I am tired of reading about man's inhumanity to man
Me and the bride will pack up and get there as quick as possible!
cleavers
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He was born here to be fair, I'm not sure you can refuse a passport on the name given at birth.& The fact we gave him a passport, the clue is in the name
I'm sure I heard on one of the news channels that he came here as a child with his parents and was given British Citizenship in early 2000's?, can't find it online but I definitely heard it.He was born here to be fair, I'm not sure you can refuse a passport on the name given at birth.
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Al-Shamie was understood to have entered the UK as a young child and been granted British citizenship in 2006 when he was around the age of 16.His father appears to have worked as a trauma surgeon for several NGOs in warzones across the world.
Al-Shamie appears to have worked as a tutor teaching English and computer programming."
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2025-10-02/major-incident-after-stabbing-at-synagogue
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cleavers
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bbc said british born, but I don't know.I'm sure I heard on one of the news channels that he came here as a child with his parents and was given British Citizenship in early 2000's?, can't find it online but I definitely heard it.
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The whole working out how outraged we should be being determined by which country someone was born in probably needs to stop if we’re ever going to move forwards.I'm sure I heard on one of the news channels that he came here as a child with his parents and was given British Citizenship in early 2000's?, can't find it online but I definitely heard it.
Abhorrent people are born in all countries at random.
We need to work out how to stop as many of these lunatics deciding to kill others.
Community and communication are probably the best way we can do it.
Social media rhetoric needs to be regulated and cooled asap.
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What does that actually mean Cobra approvedThey have to be COBRA approved to be deployed apparently, but have been in the area most of the day.
I'm hearing there's a couple of addresses of interest in the general area that needs to be searched.
Cobra means - Cabinet Office Briefing Room - A
Funny so actually it’s means a meeting in room A
Cobra makes it sound more important
Fair comment, I was just attempting to add balance as there were crossed wires, I've since added the link I found.The whole working out how outraged we should be being determined by which country someone was born in probably needs to stop if we’re ever going to move forwards.
Abhorrent people are born in all countries at random.
We need to work out how to stop as many of these lunatics deciding to kill others.
Community and communication are probably the best way we can do it.
Social media rhetoric needs to be regulated and cooled asap.
I agree with you, doesn't matter where he was born, he was a wrongun.