Crystal Palace (N) | FA Cup Final | Post Match Thread

I thought Southampton was the lowest this team could go
Who knew they still has new ways to disgust and disappoint us
No confidence whatsoever in anything other than a ludicrous breakaway defeat on Tuesday
This lot have zero guts or balls. Did anyone genuinely believe we would fight back from a goal behind today?
 
Just got back from the game and I’ll be honest I’ve had few drinks. I’m not really gonna mention the game at all because I could be here all night. It’s just, I’ve only just seen the Henderson incident on TV and I was wondering if anyone can explain why or what the thinking was by VAR to not send him off, because it looks like a blatant red to me?
 
Fordyboy46 said:
You have to admit it that this has been a woeful season from players and manager alike. I'm absolutely convinced something has happened that we're not aware of that has contrived to this huge downturn in form. Maybe more players know they're on their way out like Kev and this has caused some friction
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It could be what you wrote. But, after a game like today, should KDB be kept? I think we see why the Club has decided to move him on. When we were on our losing streak, and with the possibility of the verdict on the charges coming out, I was convinced that as the price for beating the charges, we were asked to take dive by the PL. I don't know. I think after the past 4 years, there was nothing else to wring out of the team.

My observations: KDB playing way too deep. There was zero rotation past him. We needed a Kovacic, Nico or Gundo earlier in the game. Doku was bright and almost put one past that **** Henderson. Savinho - all the moves in the world and no product. Akanji. Not sure why Nunes lost his position. Akanji late on Eze for the goal.

Surely players that have been injured regularly know that their position is not certain. I don't know.
 
Having the sun blaring into my eyes for the whole game didn't help much either. Not sure I saw a fucking thing all game. £125 + costs to be blasted with UV rays and for us to bottle another penalty.
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Pep doesn’t have the upper hand over his rivals any more. When he joined he had to outsmart Neil Warnock, even mid-table teams have excellent managers now. He has to adapt to the changes that are happening in the game. If he doesn’t, he’ll go the way of Wenger, Mourinho etc.
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I think he already has went that way only he’s head and shoulders above them so it doesn’t look as bad as it could..
 
ancoats said:
PEP'S first season was shit and he fixed it and look what he went on to win

Pep will fix it
We are far from finished, just injured

Never forget, the ride has to come to an end, but you can get back on again once the cleaners have done
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I admire the optimism but finding it difficult to share it. In Pep’s first season we were a bit shaky at times but it was clear that we were moving towards something good and there were lots of square pegs which needed replacing. We Salah finished the season reasonably well.

This season it’s very hard to see what we’re aiming for. Some matches one of the full backs pushing into midfield, other games we use the full backs for width. Other matches it’s wingers out wide. We beat Forest with Grealish as an 8, he didn’t play there again. Khusanov started well and was dropped and hasn’t featured since. Similar for Nico Gonzalez. Akanji is one of our worst defenders but starts when he’s fit. KDB is very obviously past it but he plays most of the time because we simply don’t have any other creativity in the team.

We don’t move the ball quickly or play in transitions but we’re hugely vulnerable to transitions. We can’t beat low blocks and struggle with counter attacks. We get a huge amount of corners but struggle to score and also defend them.

I know we’ve missed Rodri almost all season but I don’t think his return fixes the mounting problems with the side. There’s an huge lack of athleticism and craft in the team at the moment.

Today was extra disappointing in that we played reasonably well at times but we are so so poor at turning good positions into chances, our final ball isn’t good enough. We allow teams to get into shape by attacking slowly but on the odd occasion were in behind the delivery isn’t good enough. And our finishing is below par at the moment which is a huge problem.

Hard to feel any optimism in the wake of today’s result.
 
coolcity said:
It could be that the fans are fucked in the head of course, this being the only team that haven't lost any of their last 6 PL matches.

It could be that some fans are so fucked in the head that they are incapable of working out that a team that has had two major season long injuries to key players, one being the Ballon d'Or winner and the other being by far our best player pre-season, along with very lengthy injuries to several others, with no less than 11 players out at one point, is going to fuck up your season as it would any other club.

Yet here we are again having the same stupid debate .
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Oooh, not lost in the last six PL matches. Five of those games were against teams in the bottom half of the table.
 
coolcity said:
The problem with it is it breaks up the plan, the momentum which can make a huge difference. You might get a couple of minutes added on but you can't necessarily get that momentum back.

I accept that head injuries are a serious issue but it's exploited far too much and for me the only answer is to insist that the "injured" player goes off for 5-10 minutes or is substituted immediately if the club prefer, which should cut out the fake injuries.

Apart from that they don't always add all the time on, today was an exception rather than the norm.
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Think the answer is allow sub in players that can then go off again after ten minutes if the player passes the head assessment test.
 
Tough game against a team who wanted it like their lives depended on it. We just couldn’t break them down.

That’s on the management team abive Pep (and maybe including him, but even when we were great and wining everything, he always maintained it wasn’t him and it was those above him were the reason we had the players we did), who’ve allowed the creativity of the squad to diminish for too long. We need new, younger, fresher, more spritely versions of De Bruyne, David Silva and Gündoğan around the ‘D’ of their opposition box and until we address that we will struggle to maintain an elite level.

In the meantime we have to get behind what we’ve got; and the vast vast majority of our ‘support’ at that stadium today were a fucking disgrace. Never felt less part of something good when it comes to our support.

Most refused to even join in with ‘come on City’ and just stood there moaning all game.
 
Peps thinking today was that of panic it seemed like , he would never in a final even if we were chasing a goal, give a young kid in Echeverri his debut that substitution was like Pep admitting he’d didn’t know what to do so let’s throw a kid on, who’s never played for us before. As he needed a solution
 
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