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golf chip to centre backs head is more appeasing

yep
just do something different than going wide and cutting back and going back into midfield

it's so predictable and teams want you going wide all the time because they train to defend Pep's setup
We don't or players aren't allowed to play on the fly and do something different,

Doku could go down the middle or take the ball from a midfielder and run at the 2 centre backs
 
A thought on the VAR decision is why does he not send Atwell to have a look? The decision might not have changed but, he made a clear error by not giving the free kick. I am also reasonably sure that even if Atwell hadn’t deemed it a sending off, he could have booked Henderson, which might well have put a stop to his time wasting antics.

All that notwithstanding, we made plenty of chances and missed a penalty whilst they had 2 legitimate shots on goal and scored from one.

Get the feeling that if that chance had come at our end, Eze would have controlled it and looked for someone to pass to, instead of shooting!
 
Dear o dear ? The only person that needs to go is yourself and get some help and leave supporting our great club and manager to those who really give a shit


Have a nice day mr grumpy ! U sound like a spoilt child who has been told he cannot play out
I give a shit mate, supporting this club in the space of a couple of weeks I will have parted with over a grand. Being a happy clapping turd who accepts mediocrity doesn't make you a top blue mate. Yesterday was pathetic as all of this season. The best manager in the world has served that up yet there are still excuses for it all. You can not win and put in fight, effort and the occasional bit of entertaining football. I can live with not winning, I have been brought up on it. A billion pound squad with the best manager in the game (apparently) cannot serve up that drivel and it be ok. Your mentality sounds as week as Haalands.
 
A genius would have realised the problems and rectified them. He bought in January and we are still shit and he is making the same mistakes. He needs to go, if we as fans knew full well how yesterday would go then it is crazy that he didn't. A team having none of the ball, creating very little but still beating us is nothing new at all this season. That comes from the man calling the shots.

It felt gutless and nearly as bad as that Wigan day, Foden needs to not play another minute. As does KDB, the sympathy minutes he has received could prove costly to us. He keeps trusting the same players that have let him down all season. Not winning is one thing, not turning up and seemingly not care for two cup finals, with one against your rivals is criminal. Haaland trying to get the crowd going after the disallowed goal was fucking laughable. How about you get involved in the game and have a bit of bottle, do your job and take a pen. I don't even want top 5 at this point, they don't deserve it in the slightest
Apart from Pep going - think he needs the start of the new season at least.
Agreed.
He's clearly lost his marbles this season - numerous valid reasons - and I can only hope he'll come out fighting, rejuvenated and thinking straight.
 
It's a wonder we've won anything given how useless people seem to think our club is.
Tixi big loss..i assume he was Pep's confidante....he seems lost this year. And...our recruitnents been so sht..couple that with losing key backroom staff including Jason Wilcox
 
Crosses is his kr

Crosses is Haaland's Kryptonite ..he is literally shit in the air for a big forward..thats why he goes for those wiersmd stretching kung fu kicks..nearly opened the scoring yesterday with that.. Haaland would be great for a side like Palace or Wolves..good at sitting deep and have players who can ping one over the top...he is prerty limited elsewhere on the pitch
Not sure that’s 100% accurate. The first season or so, we saw some incredible leaps and headers from Haaland - he can get ridiculously high in the air. He’s not always been shit at it, we’ve seen him do it - the question is more “why has he BECOME shit at it?”

For me it’s a combination of:
1) the service he’s receiving is rubbish - our wingers’ end product can most politely be described as “inconsistent”. Crosses, when they come in, are all over the show and rarely get near his head.
2) Teams have worked out how to defend against him and pack the box with massive defenders.
3) As a result of 1) and 2) his confidence has gone - and confidence is one of the most valuable attributes for any striker.

What the solution is, I don’t know, but it’s not Doku and Savinho. Doku works best as an impact sub when the opposition is knackered and Savinho looks like he’d work better in the reserves.
 
Apart from Pep going - think he needs the start of the new season at least.
Agreed.
He's clearly lost his marbles this season - numerous valid reasons - and I can only hope he'll come out fighting, rejuvenated and thinking straight.
Constructively disagreeing, how refreshing on here.

I hear you, I just don't have the faith. Him starting next season means he has the summer window, our last two summer windows have been garbage, plus we've wasted a load of cash in January on players he doesn't deem good enough. Him leading that window scares me and sometimes with managers their lifespan just comes to an end. He reinvented himself and his teams a few times, he hasn't shown any evidence this season that he can do that again. We won't get anybody in who will deliver that success again, not a chance. He is the best manager we will ever have. All good things come to an end though, it looks like he probably will be here next season though and I really hope you're right if he stays.
 
Saw a few Palace friends at a charity run this morning and congratulated them on winning their first trophy. But of course I’m still dead grumpy about yesterday. True this particular final didn’t matter as much as some like Stoke all those years ago or beating United so that the treble was still on. But two things rankle. First I still feel cheated by var with an absolutely appalling decision with regard to the red card. And secondly, it was all so bloody predictable. Loads of possession , loads of chances and done on a single breakaway sucker punch. Again. And then continuing to play in a way that clearly wasn’t working. Kinda speechless and as some have said the fact we are now worried about two fixtures that really should be pretty standard fare shows just how far we have fallen. Just hope Newcastle don’t win to keep them in the mix.
 
All true but the narrative against us means even no mark club fans have been brainwashed to hate us. It’s a siege mentality but it helps me enjoy others failure. We’ve done things others will never do but until we quash this 115 bollox we have never been allowed to fully enjoy it.
Ah you see I’ve never given a flying fuck about any of that. It’s just background noise.
 
Apart from Pep going - think he needs the start of the new season at least.
Agreed.
He's clearly lost his marbles this season - numerous valid reasons - and I can only hope he'll come out fighting, rejuvenated and thinking straight.
Problem is he will have little downtime to reset at the end of the season thanks to the shitshow that Fifa are calling the Club World Cup. Same applies for the players
 
Absolutely needs an overhaul, which will happen regardless on the next two weeks.
The overhaul may happen but if wecreplace outgoing with inferior quality then that's a backwards step...we won't get high quality players with out CL
 
The standards set by winning 4 in a row and a treble with prime players like kdb is not sustainable nor infinite.

Let it go blues.

Football has been conquered by the blue machine.

Time for a reset and rebuild.

No one is to blame.

How fast we get back on top will depend on recruitment.

Accept the situation, denial and anger is useless.

Your right..
Winning is a drug, and when you have to come off the drugs, the wheels fall off
I feel everybody's pain, there is no right or wrong, or somebody is to blame ? its just football, it's gone, so move on

We know how Manchester City has to win silverware, the match officials will never be on our side and will fuck us over, So we have to take our chances and take them out of the game, Yes, yesterday hurts because the officials, but its not taking our chances and killing the game that cost us.

Pep will be banking up all the doubters and haters into his brain, He knows how the media and pundits will have to eat humble pie sooner rather than later when Manchester City win more silverware. He loves to prove doubters are wrong about him,
 
He either does fuck all and scores or he does fuck all
I think we used to play teams whose defenders were un athletic so brute force got you loads of tap.ins..defenders are stronger now so you need more guile. Haaland was one of best 1 v 1 strikers in tge world for Norway and Dortmund.. we aint that sort of team.. i haven't checked but i assume wedidnt score more as a team even when haaland was bashing in hatricks v West Ham and Watford and the like
 
Constructively disagreeing, how refreshing on here.

I hear you, I just don't have the faith. Him starting next season means he has the summer window, our last two summer windows have been garbage, plus we've wasted a load of cash in January on players he doesn't deem good enough. Him leading that window scares me and sometimes with managers their lifespan just comes to an end. He reinvented himself and his teams a few times, he hasn't shown any evidence this season that he can do that again. We won't get anybody in who will deliver that success again, not a chance. He is the best manager we will ever have. All good things come to an end though, it looks like he probably will be here next season though and I really hope you're right if he stays.
You see - this place can occasionally be discursive.
 
We are far too easy to play against, have been all season and the signs were there last season. It's also dull as fuck to watch, ponderous lateral passing....FUCKING BORING!! Go for teams FFS, pace and energy instead 30 passes and end up nowhere.
Makes my Piss boil when players are throwing their arms in the air for the fans to encourage them!?!? Give us something to get excited about you failing twat.
If anyone thinks next year will be different it will not. As long as we stick to this drudgery fuck all will change. Arrogantly playing players out of position is staggering and constantly doing things that are not working is idiotic.
This isn't just about yesterday the signs have been there for all to see.

Marmoush oh dear
Doku no end product
Silvinho always on his arse
Other wonderful players are coming to the end, KDB, Gundo, Bernado
The real horror show is fodens decline.
 
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Not sure that’s 100% accurate. The first season or so, we saw some incredible leaps and headers from Haaland - he can get ridiculously high in the air. He’s not always been shit at it, we’ve seen him do it - the question is more “why has he BECOME shit at it?”

For me it’s a combination of:
1) the service he’s receiving is rubbish - our wingers’ end product can most politely be described as “inconsistent”. Crosses, when they come in, are all over the show and rarely get near his head.
2) Teams have worked out how to defend against him and pack the box with massive defenders.
3) As a result of 1) and 2) his confidence has gone - and confidence is one of the most valuable attributes for any striker.

What the solution is, I don’t know, but it’s not Doku and Savinho. Doku works best as an impact sub when the opposition is knackered and Savinho looks like he’d work better in the reserves.
Lol Savinho ...so right..he's just not a player for this level...can't beat an egg nowadays8
 
We are far too easy to play against, have been all season and the signs were there last season. It's also dull as fuck to watch, ponderous lateral passing....FUCKING BORING!! Go for teams FFS, pace and energy instead 30 passes and end up nowhere.
Makes my Piss boil when players are throwing their arms in the air for the fans to encourage them!?!? Give us something to get excited about you failing twat.
If anyone thinks next year will be different it will not. As long as we stick to this drudgery style of play fuck all will change. Arrogantly playing players out of position is she watering and constantly doing things that are not working.
This isn't just about yesterday the signs have been there for all to see.

Marmoush oh dear
Doku no end product
Silvinho always on his arse
Other wonderful players are coming to the end, KDB, Gundo, Bernado
The real horror show is fodens decline.

I know our team is full of FOCs but pretty sure Silvinho is past it by even our shite standards
 

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