CSKA Moscow v City - Post match discussion

Let's not let the result get in the way of the facts, fantastic 3 points
on a dodgy pitch but we got out of jail tonight against a pretty poor
team.

We should have put this tie to bed early on but we didn't. A point
blank save and a very lucky decision saved us.

Saying that, I reckon we'll put at least four past these at home.
 
samharris said:
Rocket Sauce said:
Great win tonight!!! I too, was concerned before kickoff when I saw Garcia on the team sheet. He did ok. He's not a centre half, so we have to keep that in mind when criticising.If anyone should come in for criticism about it, it's Pellegrini. But...and this is the most important part...we got the 3 points.

Overall, no complaints from me as we got the job done. Bring on Chelsea!!!!

maybe those criticising him dont know this..;)

So why do we keep playing him there. Joleon must be real pissed.
 
taconinja said:
mancitygaz said:
taconinja said:
Positional awareness I imagine is what the manager is thinking.
Are you on crack?
No. Richards has shown at times in the past that he can lose positional awareness. If you think this is controversial, then you can't really be helped.
No, no and trice no! If you think Garcia is preferred at CB for his
'Positional awareness' then you don't need help my fine fellow, you
are helpless.
Goodnight
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
East Level 2 said:
I'm With Specsavers said:
I only saw the second half and I thought we looked quite shite. But I'll take a scrappy win away in Russia, in 0 degrees, on a plastic pitch that's all cut up. Now for two home games to finish the job.
Eh?
It's all in the username.

Or he just needs to remove the word WITH from his moniker.
 
A few points from tonight's match that seemed to have escaped comment.

Great save from Joe at the end, but that was rubbish goalkeeping for their goal. Two defenders coming across the striker and Joe dashes from his line and gives him a simple finish. Very, very poor.

Their disallowed goal, most players stopped, including Dzeko, Nastasic, because they heard the whistle long before the strike on goal.

For anyone with any confidence in this group of players, tonight's result puts top spot in this group still very much in play.
 
mancitygaz said:
taconinja said:
mancitygaz said:
Are you on crack?
No. Richards has shown at times in the past that he can lose positional awareness. If you think this is controversial, then you can't really be helped.
No, no and trice no! If you think Garcia is preferred at CB for his
'Positional awareness' then you don't need help my fine fellow, you
are helpless.
Goodnight
I didn't say that, did I? Someone asked why Richards wasn't chosen, and that's the best guess isn't it considering the idea that Pellegrini wants to lose or any such nonsense is moronic?
 
Bluekiwi said:
We won.
No injuries which was my biggest worry with that pitch.
Let's move on now to the next game.

This, just hope we never play with that defence ever again. Dodgy defending and got out of jail with the brilliance of our forward line.....in the first half.
 
Why are some downplaying CSKA like they weren't champions of Russia last season and were missing Doumbia for most of the season as to why there's been a lack of goals?
 
taconinja said:
mancitygaz said:
taconinja said:
Positional awareness I imagine is what the manager is thinking.
Are you on crack?
No. Richards has shown at times in the past that he can lose positional awareness. If you think this is controversial, then you can't really be helped.

Whilst this may be true, positional awareness at centre half is hardly Garcia's strongpoint either, not withstanding that he's also shit. Got caught flat-footed by a 60 yarder over his head early doors, got caught underneath another hoof from which he then had to frantically backpedal only to still get out jumped by Honda, completely lost his opponent in the box 2nd half leaving him with a free header from 5 yards out at the back post. He's a mediocre central midfielder, but as a central defender he's an accident waiting to happen at all times. Not aided and abetted by being deployed alongside Nasty and Kolarov, who were also caught napping repeatedly, but a liability in his own right nonetheless. Whatever Micah's faults, he could not conceivably do worse
 
Think we did great in getting the 3 points. And that's what it's all about at this stage of the CL-campaign.

We should -again- have been out of sight withing half an hour to make the game a formality after that. But we hardly critisize the players who miss great opportunities to score ame off. Instead we focus on a man who in principal is not a CB and is being exposed too often because of lack of team defending. Should we replace Garcia for Lescott? Lescott looks pretty poor with the ball on a perfect pitch, let alone on this one. Richards? The man is only chasing the defending mistakes for not reading the game. Both Lescott and Richards are fine, Richards in fact is great when being right-back. But I doubt Pellegrini had much options last night and with Kompany and Demichelis out, Garcia should be 1st choice in the way Pellegrini wants his team to play.

Anyway, great result and if we beat CSKA and Pilzen at home, we are through to the next round.
 
MillionDollarDream said:
Why are some downplaying CSKA like they weren't champions of Russia last season and were missing Doumbia for most of the season as to why there's been a lack of goals?
They're 6th in their league, 11 points behind the leaders, and are in terrible form having not won any of their last five games, losing four of them and drawing one.
 
Ameturish. Plain and simple. Lucky in the end that our missed chances didnt cost us. Joe kun and the kid did well. Still joe needs cut out the poor decision making that cost us the opening goal.
 
for those asking about lescott, im assuming pellegrini is wanting one right footed centre back and one left footed centre back to provide balance. garcia wasn't even that bad tonight. good result in tough circumstances, a win at home to these and we could be through to the knockouts!
 
mancitygaz said:
taconinja said:
gmckennasell said:
Great result , but why is pellergrini persevering with garcia at centre back ? , he a liability , Micah should have played at centre back tonight , it would have been a far more comfortable night with him in defence , a natural right sided defender , quick and good in the air.
Positional awareness I imagine is what the manager is thinking.
Are you on crack?


Pellegrini will have barely worked in training with Micah as a CB. He missed pre season and has only been training with the squad for a few weeks. Pellegrini might have seen him play a few games as a CB on the telly but that's it. Pellegrini will probably still be concentrating on communicating how he wants him to play the full back role.
 
Same old same old. Only this time the result (thank God) the result was different.

But fundamentally we were still wasteful up front with too many good chances not out away. Yaya missed an absolute sitter and Kun and Dzeko both missing chances that they really shoud have taken.

And at the other end, it's amateurish again. Yes there's some excuses with Kompany and the other bloke I can't spell both out. But for the life of me I cannot understand why we did not give our defenders some better protection with a deeper lying holding midfield player, especially after Garcia kept getting beaten, as we knew he would anyway. It was asking for trouble setting up as we did, but we fluked a win. Better opponents would have taken their many chances and beatn us again.
 
carlosthejackal said:
Fantastic result, should have won by a mile, yet seem content to make the fans sweat till the end. Dzeko needs to grow a pair, obviously sulking again and played as though he couldnt give a shit. Seems as though he wants everything on his own terms.Never been a fan of Garcia , slow , ponderous, not the bravest, but at least he gives everything when asked to play, unlike Dzeko.


Never been a fan of Garcia , slow , ponderous, not the bravest, but at least he gives everything when asked to play

Absolutely. Garcia is limited but he always gives 100%.

Dzeko on the other hand is a massive shithouse.

That 'tackle' alone where he wafted a leg out like Michael Jackson is reason enough to sell the guy.

Made Nasri's 'derby day fee kick' leg waft look like Andy Morisson levels of commitment,

Fucking shite.<br /><br />-- Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:01 am --<br /><br />
Marvin said:
I thought Dzeko was a little unfortunate not to score at least one of those two chances

Sky pointing out that City could have conceded in the last moments, but we had more than our fair share of very good chances.

Garcia attracting criticism for not winning that header with Honda, and unfortunately for us it led to their goal, but I watched the entire game, and he won the majority of his challenges.

Critics are grasping at straws

Garcia played well. Again.

Had a nightmare for their goal but other than that he did everything else well and was solid.
 
mancitygaz said:
taconinja said:
gmckennasell said:
Great result , but why is pellergrini persevering with garcia at centre back ? , he a liability , Micah should have played at centre back tonight , it would have been a far more comfortable night with him in defence , a natural right sided defender , quick and good in the air.
Positional awareness I imagine is what the manager is thinking.
Are you on crack?
never seen Garcia in the right position tbh at cb, Micah might be a bit mad for a cb but he knows the job
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
taconinja said:
mancitygaz said:
Are you on crack?
No. Richards has shown at times in the past that he can lose positional awareness. If you think this is controversial, then you can't really be helped.

Whilst this may be true, positional awareness at centre half is hardly Garcia's strongpoint either, not withstanding that he's also shit. Got caught flat-footed by a 60 yarder over his head early doors, got caught underneath another hoof from which he then had to frantically backpedal only to still get out jumped by Honda, completely lost his opponent in the box 2nd half leaving him with a free header from 5 yards out at the back post. He's a mediocre central midfielder, but as a central defender he's an accident waiting to happen at all times. Not aided and abetted by being deployed alongside Nasty and Kolarov, who were also caught napping repeatedly, but a liability in his own right nonetheless. Whatever Micah's faults, he could not conceivably do worse
what game did you watch? nasty was tops, did his own job while covering for that clowns mistakes
 

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