Curious and unusual deaths

SWP's back said:
But if it was a musket ball (as mentioned originally) then I very much doubt a musket ball could reach a sufficient, gravity alone induced, velocity, to do damage.

It also said he fired it into the air and it came down and killed him, so I wouldn't believe anything tbh ;-)
Sounds like one of Marks facts
 
stony said:
SWP's back said:
But if it was a musket ball (as mentioned originally) then I very much doubt a musket ball could reach a sufficient, gravity alone induced, velocity, to do damage.

It also said he fired it into the air and it came down and killed him, so I wouldn't believe anything tbh ;-)
Sounds like one of Marks facts
It's been an interesting few pages and I enjoyed looking things up.

I was saying to rascal last night that one learns so much in the Cellar and this is exactly why.
 
SWP's back said:
stony said:
SWP's back said:
But if it was a musket ball (as mentioned originally) then I very much doubt a musket ball could reach a sufficient, gravity alone induced, velocity, to do damage.

It also said he fired it into the air and it came down and killed him, so I wouldn't believe anything tbh ;-)
Sounds like one of Marks facts
It's been an interesting few pages and I enjoyed looking things up.

I was saying to rascal last night that one learns so much in the Cellar and this is exactly why.

Me too

Just found another interesting fact about civil war snipers

Freelance snipers
Neither army trained snipers in the professional, dedicated way that they are developed today. Rather, they used sharpshooter units to scout and harass the enemy. Some individuals, like the Confederacy’s Ben Powell or the famously shaggy Union sniper Truman “California Joe” Head, would stand out as particularly good shots and gradually slip the bonds of military discipline, working more and more as freelance snipers, less and less as uniformed sharpshooters. Califor­nia Joe—a favor­ite of Berdan and the Northern press—was celebrated for the number and difficulty of his “kills” with the Sharps rifle, one of them at 1,500 yards.

Impressive for the era and that would definitely hurt if it fell on your head.
 
stony said:
SWP's back said:
stony said:
It also said he fired it into the air and it came down and killed him, so I wouldn't believe anything tbh ;-)
Sounds like one of Marks facts
It's been an interesting few pages and I enjoyed looking things up.

I was saying to rascal last night that one learns so much in the Cellar and this is exactly why.

Me too

Just found another interesting fact about civil war snipers

Freelance snipers
Neither army trained snipers in the professional, dedicated way that they are developed today. Rather, they used sharpshooter units to scout and harass the enemy. Some individuals, like the Confederacy’s Ben Powell or the famously shaggy Union sniper Truman “California Joe” Head, would stand out as particularly good shots and gradually slip the bonds of military discipline, working more and more as freelance snipers, less and less as uniformed sharpshooters. Califor­nia Joe—a favor­ite of Berdan and the Northern press—was celebrated for the number and difficulty of his “kills” with the Sharps rifle, one of them at 1,500 yards.

Impressive for the era and that would definitely hurt if it fell on your head.
Jesus, I can barely read a paper at that distance.
 
A woman in a failing marriage secretly grinds up three Viagra pills and puts them into her husband's beer in an attempt to "jump start" his sex drive. The man then gets a call from his mistress and takes three more Viagra pills before going to her house. The mistress later drops another three pills into his beer. During sex with his mistress, too much blood rushes to his penis because of the 900 mg overdose of Viagra, depriving his brain of blood and eventually killing him.
 
SWP's back said:
stony said:
SWP's back said:
But if it was a musket ball (as mentioned originally) then I very much doubt a musket ball could reach a sufficient, gravity alone induced, velocity, to do damage.

It also said he fired it into the air and it came down and killed him, so I wouldn't believe anything tbh ;-)
Sounds like one of Marks facts
It's been an interesting few pages and I enjoyed looking things up.

I was saying to rascal last night that one learns so much in the Cellar and this is exactly why.
Yes your right you learn a lot.
Just been on wiki looking into Cold Harbor then jumped forward to ww2, how about this one.
While on combat patrol off the coast of Taiwan the US submarine Tang torpedoed ITSELF killing 74 sailors.
How did that happen, thought torpedoes went forward, now that is unlucky
 
blue underpants said:
SWP's back said:
stony said:
It also said he fired it into the air and it came down and killed him, so I wouldn't believe anything tbh ;-)
Sounds like one of Marks facts
It's been an interesting few pages and I enjoyed looking things up.

I was saying to rascal last night that one learns so much in the Cellar and this is exactly why.
Yes your right you learn a lot.
Just been on wiki looking into Cold Harbor then jumped forward to ww2, how about this one.
While on combat patrol off the coast of Taiwan the US submarine Tang torpedoed ITSELF killing 74 sailors.
How did that happen, thought torpedoes went forward, now that is unlucky
Probably something to do with a fucking woman driver.
 
Seosa said:
A woman in a failing marriage secretly grinds up three Viagra pills and puts them into her husband's beer in an attempt to "jump start" his sex drive. The man then gets a call from his mistress and takes three more Viagra pills before going to her house. The mistress later drops another three pills into his beer. During sex with his mistress, too much blood rushes to his penis because of the 900 mg overdose of Viagra, depriving his brain of blood and eventually killing him.

How did they get the coffin lid on?
 
SWP's back said:
stony said:
SWP's back said:
I can't believe that. If fired fired directly up then it's only gravity bringing it back down do I can't imagine the terminal velocity of a musket ball would be enough to kill.

There are quite a few cases of this each year believe it or not.

Firearms expert Julian Hatcher studied falling bullets and found that .30 caliber rounds reach terminal velocities of 300 feet per second (90 m/s) and larger .50 caliber bullets have a terminal velocity of 500 feet per second (150 m/s).[8] A bullet traveling at only 150 feet per second (46 m/s) to 170 feet per second (52 m/s) can penetrate human skin,[9] and at 200 feet per second (60 m/s) it can penetrate the skull.[10] A bullet that does not penetrate the skull may still result in an intracranial injury


A musket ball would probably be around .50 if not bigger.
Yes but as we all know from physics, it is not the size nor weight of the object that necessarily defines its terminal velocity but the shape. A musket round is not particularly aerodynamic. Plus, unlike a 50 cal, it would not travel very high into the air (to acheive full terminal velocity on the way back down).

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Musket ball

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.50 calibre

The examples each year are generally people shooting "into" the air (but usually at an angle, however slight) which allows the bullet to keep its speed to an extent. The story above implies (as it must), a 90 degree shot into the air (for it to land in the same point) so its speed will have ceased at zero before descent.

-- Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:06 pm --

blue underpants said:
SWP's back said:
I can't believe that. If fired fired directly up then it's only gravity bringing it back down do I can't imagine the terminal velocity of a musket ball would be enough to kill.
Only passing on what i read, didnt the rebel leadership in the recent Libyan conflict ask the fighters to stop firing in the air as falling bullets were killing non combatants some distance away
Yes very possible but fired at angles. Not 90 degrees (to return to hit the shooter where the bullet passes through zero speed and returns of its own accord).

for fucks sake SWP, you could start a row on an empty forum...
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
stonerblue said:
The Fat el Hombre said:
It's called the crime investigation channel or something. I've got it on series record, give it a go



Yea I did not enjoy that at all, cringed through most of it.

The guy with the golf club however...

I'm racking my brains to figure out how a 9 iron could kill ??

You not see it? I thought it was the same episode. I was watching it wondering how the fuck he was gonna kill himself with it!

He played a shit shot, went mad and started walking around looking for something to hit with his gold club. Came across a bench and started leathering it, golf club snapped and the spike from the steel that snapped went into his chest and killed him (not sure if it hit his heart). Apparently he would have been swinging his club around 50mph and it would have fired off the bench faster which is why it did him

Would seem pretty unbelievable if it wasn't a true story, partly why this is such a great programme.

I probably nodded off halfway through, what with me being so dynamic in the daytime and all.
Spiked off a golf club is very unlucky.

On a not un-related note, what about that show titled 'Body invaders' or 'spiked' or something similar. That's another good one.

The bloke who fell onto his massive drill and drilled through himself was amazing. He survived.
 

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