Dani Alves

Never cease to amaze me that a vast majority of top sportsmen are utterly repulsive human beings.

They have everything but it's never enough, FFS have you seen his ex wife?

Joana Sanz makes defiant statement about her relationship with Dani Alves |  Marca



Hopefully the bitches inside jail will keep Daniel happy
No, the vast majority are hard working ordinary people with a talent.
 
No, the vast majority are hard working ordinary people with a talent.
The top one's in my experience are incredibly talented but deeply flawed and very unpleasant characters away from their chosen sport.
 
The top one's in my experience are incredibly talented but deeply flawed and very unpleasant characters away from their chosen sport.
Really? Are you including City legends in that? At worst, some of our very best players might be a bit of a dick. Most seem sound.
 
Really? Are you including City legends in that? At worst, some of our very best players might be a bit of a dick. Most seem sound.
We in the last decade have been incredibly lucky to have some wonderful players and people at the club, in MY experience that is very rare.

I got to know many city/united players in the 80s/90s, a vast majority were utter twats away from the pitch and I mean utter twats, nasty, unpleasant individuals.

I personally have never got player worship, they come and go, some leave behind a legacy but a select few.
 
But it's not commonly motivated by a lack of access to sex or by sexual attraction. So when someone says "why would someone rape when they can have any woman in the world?" then they're missing the point.
I’m not, but it’s undeniably about sex as it involves the act for the offence to be made out. It is intrinsic. So to say it’s not about sex is to say a car isn’t to do with transport.
 
I’m not, but it’s undeniably about sex as it involves the act for the offence to be made out. It is intrinsic. So to say it’s not about sex is to say a car isn’t to do with transport.

But this is arguing about semantics rather than what the original discussion was about. It's incorrect (and indicative of some quite dangerous misconceptions around rape) to say it doesn't make sense for a man to commit rape when he has consensual sex available to him elsewhere. Rape and its motivations and intent aren't about sex. Sex is being used as the weapon. Rape isn't consensual sex (in fact organisations like Rape Crisis go as far as to say that rape is NOT sex and instead should be framed as an act of violence). So when someone asks that question they're asking "why did this person brutalise/humiliate/degrade/enact rage against their victim when they could have had consensual sex with their beautiful wife instead?". You may as well ask why didn't have a nice cup of tea instead. I think people maybe understand nuance a bit more when you look at instances of where a heterosexual male has raped another man. People can understand the power and humiliation aspects in those cases more easily and i think would be less likely to ask "why didn't they go and have sex with a willing partner instead?"
 
But this is arguing about semantics rather than what the original discussion was about. It's incorrect (and indicative of some quite dangerous misconceptions around rape) to say it doesn't make sense for a man to commit rape when he has consensual sex available to him elsewhere. Rape and its motivations and intent aren't about sex. Sex is being used as the weapon. Rape isn't consensual sex (in fact organisations like Rape Crisis go as far as to say that rape is NOT sex and instead should be framed as an act of violence). So when someone asks that question they're asking "why did this person brutalise/humiliate/degrade/enact rage against their victim when they could have had consensual sex with their beautiful wife instead?". You may as well ask why didn't have a nice cup of tea instead. I think people maybe understand nuance a bit more when you look at instances of where a heterosexual male has raped another man. People can understand the power and humiliation aspects in those cases more easily and i think would be less likely to ask "why didn't they go and have sex with a willing partner instead?"
But I’ve not said any of that, and nor would I - but to suggest rape is nothing to do with sex, which is what was posted, is hopelessly simplistic. In fact it’s almost as hopelessly simplistic as suggesting it’s only about sex.
 

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