Arrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh! You had to go there :) Trying to sucker me into a lecture... Bad mosssideblue! Bad!I think totally different to you on these matters. Because we pay a certain amount for a player you do not consider that good value because a similar player went cheaper. The player we get could be the missing piece of the jigsaw and we are more than content at the price we pay (irrespective of norms) and in my book, if that player does pan out, then that is a bargain.