Every case is different, both those have signed longer bigger contracts, neither are German neither are being left out of teams regularly, when they get down to 2 years we may not have a transfer ban as a possibility down the line. We bandy these figures around and think nothing of them, we all do, but just stop and think for a second if he runs his contract down we stand to lose his fee and value from his wages that's £100 million that's a huge chunk of money that the club will be unable to reinvest. Hopefully none of this applies but no ay the club will take that risk.