Declan Rice

[Kippaxpete]

Ok. As I said, his mum and dad must be loaded then. I've seen pictures of the house. It's huge and in a very expensive part of London.

The guy specifically said 'lives in the house he always has done', suggesting it's his childhood home.

Posh twat. Can see why he chose the tarquins. ;-)

Well, you could knock me down with a feather, guvnor. Cor blimey and stone the crows! You can see why those lovable East End scamps at West Ham took Rice into their hearts as one of their own.

 

[VOOMER]

Surely not? I knew something was off when we made just 1 bid that was the same value as arsenal 2nd that got rejected. Perhaps we’ve told West Ham to keep firm and then we swoop in to close the deal? One can dream lol.

The hammers we're likely told there would be a substantial down payment. I guess Edu and Sullivan's idea of substantial may be very, very different.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Sounds like our bid had a time limit set on it!

 

[waspish]

Arsenal are in a strong position seems he only wants them so arsenal playing hard ball ball with the playments!

 

[FatedBlue77]

EXWHUemployee update:

 

[Deleted member 77198]

When I've seen Phillips and Rice play for England, Phillips looked the better player - robust, sharp in the tackle and able to pick out a pass. He was all over the pitch and looked a very decent player. Maybe I missed something and that Rice enabled him to do that! I've not seen Rice look decent against us and honestly just can't see what it is that people are getting excited about.

I suspect Phillips will play more games this year and probably feels he's got something to prove. Let's be honest, if he leaves us he isn't going to Real is he? This season is the most career-defining season he will have. If he can push for a starting place, he's a chance of winning medals he'll have dreamed of as a kid - see what it meant to Grealish. He will also be a definite in the Euros too.

The more I look at this £105m deal compared to some of the others, Arsenal have made a HUGE gamble that he is the missing piece. For that sort of money, they could've had Mac Allister, (£35m), Maddison (£40m), Tielemens (free) and Gabri Veiga (£35m). I know they don't play exactly the same game as Rice, but these prices show how much higher his fee - even us paying £30m for Kovacic. It also shows how they could've strengthened their squad quite a lot as well for the same-ish fee. Loftus-Cheek went for under £20m and he's just signed for AC Milan.

I honestly think they will regret it as there's no way they will get anything close to what they've paid for him back in a few years.

I have said the same many times.

 

[OntarioBlue]

I have said the same many times.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Phillips make a pass of more than about 3 yards for City. Of course, that could be team orders.

 

[TonyM]

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Phillips make a pass of more than about 3 yards for City. Of course, that could be team orders.

Phillips has made a good few long over the top passes every time he has played. A lot have been too heavy and gone out of play. If he can perfect them he'll be happier. And if he puts in a proper shift we'll be happier.

 

[Dribble]

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Phillips make a pass of more than about 3 yards for City. Of course, that could be team orders.

I've seen a few long passes from Philips. But having said that, City are no Stoke or ManUre. We're more a short 1 & 2 touch passing side...

Philips has gone from being top dog in a bang average Leeds side, where if he was fit, he played, to coming into a City squad brimming with world class footballing superstars who have a title/trophy winning mentality.

Added to the fact he spent most of the previous season injured, & a big portion of last season injured/recovering from injury, it was always gonna be a tough ask for him to show his worth straight away.

Cast your mind back to the best player I've seen wearing a City shirt... David Silva. It was said he was too small for the Prem & would get chewed up & shat out by bloodthirsty cloggers like Delap, Shawcross, Anderson & Fletcher et al...

He arrived a World Cup winner sporting an injured ankle. IIRC, he didn't kick a ball until the end of October & he struggled to adjust to the pace of the PL. Most pundits, many neutral fans AND many City fans fell for the narrative that he was too diminutive to make it in England.

He got through that first season although it was a struggle. He then had a good rest during the summer & when he returned for his second PL season, the Legend of David Silva was born & the rest was history.

I'm not claiming Philips is the second coming of David Silva, but think back to which midfielder was on everyone's lips & shopping list after the Euro's 2 summers ago? It wasn't Bellingham, Rice, Mount or Henderson...

That's the Philips we bought & that player is still in there. He just needs us to get off his back, give him our full support & put our faith in Txiki & Pep for acquiring him & making him a crucial member of our squad for the coming season.

 

[Norbert D]

EXWHUemployee update:

Looks like City have fucked them both up the bugle. Arse can’t afford the up front payments, West Ham have lost City as their bargaining chip.

open the popcorn and enjoy, wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up at City for our original offer or maybe slightly less.

 

[decmancity]

Looks like City have fucked them both up the bugle. Arse can’t afford the up front payments, West Ham have lost City as their bargaining chip.

open the popcorn and enjoy, wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up at City for our original offer or maybe slightly less.

Nah no chance we go back now. He obviously made it very clear Arsenal was his preferred option and I don't think we will bend over backwards like we did for Laporte to go back again.

He will end up staying and West Ham sell him next summer with 1yr on his contract. The fee will probably still be 50+ and he could well be the difference in them staying up next season which is worth the difference straight away.

 

[bobmcfc]

Nah no chance we go back now. He obviously made it very clear Arsenal was his preferred option and I don't think we will bend over backwards like we did for Laporte to go back again.

He will end up staying and West Ham sell him next summer with 1yr on his contract. The fee will probably still be 50+ and he could well be the difference in them staying up next season which is worth the difference straight away.

Yeah, fuck that guy. Doesn't have the balls to compete at our level

 

[Tangled up in blue.]

I wonder if were still in contact with WHU about the Rice deal

 

[danielwood5]

Nah no chance we go back now. He obviously made it very clear Arsenal was his preferred option

Where does this statement keep coming from? Surely it doesn't matter where his preferred destination is if West Ham don't accept an offer. If he said he wants to go to City or wherever then West Ham arent going to accept a lower bid surely? Maybe Barcelona is his preferred option but if they don't bid then tough shit Declan.
The only places I've seen quoting Arsenal as his preferred destination is Arsenal affiliated media and online twitter odd jobs.
I'm not saying it isn't true but surely the players preference know comes into it if two bads are accepted.

 

[Legal Alien]

Looks like City have fucked them both up the bugle. Arse can’t afford the up front payments, West Ham have lost City as their bargaining chip.

open the popcorn and enjoy, wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up at City for our original offer or maybe slightly less.

I hope not, we don't need this lad, especially if Stones is going to continue playing the hybrid midfield role.

Plus, i don't want the arse getting off the hook on this one.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I wonder if were still in contact with WHU about the Rice deal

I suspect not, but I am not itk.

Think that ship has sailed.

 

[wolviedinho]

Amazed this is still rumbling on. Rice is bound to be hard by now -:)

Dealing with clubs like Brighton and West Ham seem difficult to say the least. You can understand the clubs wanting to receive a big transfer but Arsenal don’t seem to have the money unless borrowing it over 10 seasons. Surely something like ffp should be looking into why a club who can’t afford a transfer is still trying to buy a player way above their pay grade!

Someone should look into this, maybe make a YouTube video?

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I hope not, we don't need this lad, especially if Stones is going to continue playing the hybrid midfield role.

Plus, i don't want the arse getting off the hook on this one.

Personally think it would be funny as fuck if the arse can't get this over the line because they thought they could twist West Ham's arm into accepting their terms.

 

[manimanc]

It's gone awfully quiet with this one, this after sky sports news shouting it from the rooftops.
Be piss funny is West Ham walk away.

 

[jimharri]

This seems to be dragging out longer than it ought to be. If it was done and dusted, as was being implied last week, he'd have signed on the dotted line by now, shirley. Gooners having problems coming up with a payment schedule to satisfy the Hammers?