I agree with him.That’s called passing the book
Tell you what - you go first
As I said in my other post. Some of them adapted their game.Ok so you can’t back up your statement. Here’s a few for you & most of these didn’t have the medical support available now:
Falcao
Alan Shearer
Alessandro Del Piero
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Roberto Baggio
Roy Keane
Xavi
Francesco Totti
Robert Pires
Virgil van Dijk
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Michael Owen
Shearer said - quote:As I said in my other post. Some of them adapted their game.
I mean, you've named Owen. Jesus christ, if you think he was the same player post injury you need to get your eyes and ears tested.
Even he said he wasn't the same player ever again because his body couldn't do it.
Shearer adapted well but openly said that he wasn't the same.
Etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's nonsense to suggest Owen was ever the same again.Shearer said - quote:
08. ARE YOU PLAYING AND/OR TRAINING DIFFERENTLY NOW AFTER THE INJURY?
“No, I didn’t specifically change anything. I came back 100%.”
Owen did his in 2006 & didn’t retire until 2013. As a player he suffered many many injuries but the ACL did not impair his play - it was the fear of getting injured ie mental issues.
What about all the others listed plus Gundy who first joined us after his ACL & was one of our best players?
Falcao wasn't.Yeah ok, but except...
Falcao Alan Shearer Alessandro Del Piero Ruud van Nistelrooy
Roberto Baggio Roy Keane Xavi Francesco Totti Robert Pires
Virgil van Dijk Zlatan Ibrahimovic Michael Owen,
who else?
Gundo won 16 titles with us after his ACL 2016 aged 26.
Ah yes, that's true. But except Gundo, Falcao ....
Gundo joined us during his recovery from a dislocated kneecap 134 days out in total and wasn’t here long before he did his cruciate 242 days outYeah ok, but except...
Falcao Alan Shearer Alessandro Del Piero Ruud van Nistelrooy
Roberto Baggio Roy Keane Xavi Francesco Totti Robert Pires
Virgil van Dijk Zlatan Ibrahimovic Michael Owen,
who else?
Gundo won 16 titles with us after his ACL 2016 aged 26.
Ah yes, that's true. But except Gundo, Falcao ....
You don’t seem to understand. Owen had repeated injury problems not related to ACL - look up his injury record. He did his ACL in 2006 but he had many other injuries after that.I'm sorry but it's nonsense to suggest Owen was ever the same again.
Owen was never the same player again.
But even if Rodri came back with a mental issue about getting injured then the result would be the same - he wouldn't play the same.
Again, I'm hoping he comes back 100% but even so, it will be a long time before he's back to his best and the whole point was that we need a other DCM to support the team.
The thing is - all these examples were many many years ago.Falcao wasn't.
Shearer wasn't.
Ibrahimovic wasn't.
Van Nisistelroy wasn't.
Owen wasn't.
Van Dijk isn't.
Sane (you left out) isn't.
Still being a good player/adapting your game, is a long way from being the level before. A couple were only kids, so heal better and quicker...Rodri isn't a kid.
Let's hope he comes back the same...I would say 'even better' but that's impossible ;)
...and likewise, it's only your opinion that they were ;) except Owen, he said himself that he never was.The thing is - all these examples were many many years ago.
Treatment has improved
& it’s only your opinion that the players were never the same again
I believe Owen had more trouble with his continual hamstring & groin injuries - quote:...and likewise, it's only your opinion that they were ;) except Owen, he said himself that he never was.
Wright mayWhenever Stones has played the actual DM role he was been awful.
He played well by playing the inverted Centre Half role. Akanji however, in the inverted CH role was cumbersome.
Apart from maybe O-Reilly, there isn’t a player at the club who will make any impact in the DM role.
Therefore, get one signed or else!
Thankfully Rodri plays none of those positionsFalcao wasn't.
Shearer wasn't.
Ibrahimovic wasn't.
Van Nisistelroy wasn't.
Owen wasn't.
Van Dijk isn't.
Sane (you left out) isn't.
Still being a good player/adapting your game, is a long way from being the level before. A couple were only kids, so heal better and quicker...Rodri isn't a kid.
Let's hope he comes back the same...I would say 'even better' but that's impossible ;)
Everybody relies on pace. Whatever the baseline of their pace was, is still needed.A lot of those relied on pace. Rodri doesn't.
So are you suggesting we should have to score 3+ goals a game in order to win? That's just not realistic.I don't agree that all our issues like not scoring, inviting for counters and poor defending esp at full back will be solved by signing a top DM. That's a very incomplete analysis of the situation IMO.
And I never get an answer who that top DM ready to come would even be.
It's you that doesn't understand.....You don’t seem to understand. Owen had repeated injury problems not related to ACL - look up his injury record. He did his ACL in 2006 but he had many other injuries after that.
Additionally - what about the other players I listed? You can’t base your “theory” on one player especially when you’re using opinion rather than fact.
Forgot to mention Sane. He recovered well
He made 1 substitute appearance for City after the injury.It's you that doesn't understand.....
it doesn't matter that Shearer said he came back 100% fit, he wasn't the player he was, that is a fact.
Owen, when started had a 'wow' about him, after his injury he never had that again, he just became a decent player, nothing more. Becoming injury prone afterwards, is a by product of serious injury...which makes any player less effective than they previously were!
Sane? Are you for real?? He was half the player for us afterwards, and has never been as good at Bayern, as he was before his injury with us.