Dax777 said:On present form, anyone with common sense will take Ba. There was a time few years ago in Germany, when Ba was a side note at Hoffenhiem, and Dzeko was the god at Wolfsburg. Anyone then would have taken Dzeko. And we did. Correctly so.
But today, based on their form so far in the premiership, Ba has been the better option. These are just the facts devoid of any emotion.
So you all should stop trying to psuedo attack Jumanji. Not that he can't handle himself in an argument.
Jumanji said:Who gives a fuck which players I personally rate.Marvin said:Reading back anyone would think you rated Ba ahead of DzekoJumanji said:Ba consistently scores goals in England, thriving on rubbish service and creating something.
That's all I was saying.
I never fucking said that so no I'm not "telling you that I would have Ba over Dzeko", so don't put these words in my mouth or insinuate this.
Sure! People do say that. But I sure as hell don't know what it means. I tend to focus strictly on form, and could give 2 nods about class. I'd take the form of Yakubu over the class of Torres right now. For me it is about production. Everything else is secondary.Mancini - ohhh said:Dax777 said:On present form, anyone with common sense will take Ba. There was a time few years ago in Germany, when Ba was a side note at Hoffenhiem, and Dzeko was the god at Wolfsburg. Anyone then would have taken Dzeko. And we did. Correctly so.
But today, based on their form so far in the premiership, Ba has been the better option. These are just the facts devoid of any emotion.
So you all should stop trying to psuedo attack Jumanji. Not that he can't handle himself in an argument.
What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Mancini - ohhh said:What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Mancini - ohhh said:Dax777 said:On present form, anyone with common sense will take Ba. There was a time few years ago in Germany, when Ba was a side note at Hoffenhiem, and Dzeko was the god at Wolfsburg. Anyone then would have taken Dzeko. And we did. Correctly so.
But today, based on their form so far in the premiership, Ba has been the better option. These are just the facts devoid of any emotion.
So you all should stop trying to psuedo attack Jumanji. Not that he can't handle himself in an argument.
What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Already signed, left back.Jumanji said:Clichés.....................................................Mancini - ohhh said:Form is temporary but class is permanent?
I'm sorry, that was Clichy.i8rags said:Already signed, left back.Jumanji said:Clichés.....................................................Mancini - ohhh said:Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Blue Haze said:Mancini - ohhh said:Dax777 said:On present form, anyone with common sense will take Ba. There was a time few years ago in Germany, when Ba was a side note at Hoffenhiem, and Dzeko was the god at Wolfsburg. Anyone then would have taken Dzeko. And we did. Correctly so.
But today, based on their form so far in the premiership, Ba has been the better option. These are just the facts devoid of any emotion.
So you all should stop trying to psuedo attack Jumanji. Not that he can't handle himself in an argument.
What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Other than passing I can't think of one area where Dzeko is superior.
Maybe Ba is a player who has to be #1 and play all the time, which wouldn't work here. But objectively Ba has better weapons than Dzeko. His mobility and touch in particular are worlds better than Dzeko. This one of the reasons Dzeko goes through form dips and is not first choice in big matches: his touch is poor whether he's on form or not.
Blue Haze said:Mancini - ohhh said:Dax777 said:On present form, anyone with common sense will take Ba. There was a time few years ago in Germany, when Ba was a side note at Hoffenhiem, and Dzeko was the god at Wolfsburg. Anyone then would have taken Dzeko. And we did. Correctly so.
But today, based on their form so far in the premiership, Ba has been the better option. These are just the facts devoid of any emotion.
So you all should stop trying to psuedo attack Jumanji. Not that he can't handle himself in an argument.
What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Other than passing I can't think of one area where Dzeko is superior.
Maybe Ba is a player who has to be #1 and play all the time, which wouldn't work here. But objectively Ba has better weapons than Dzeko. His mobility and touch in particular are worlds better than Dzeko. This one of the reasons Dzeko goes through form dips and is not first choice in big matches: his touch is poor whether he's on form or not.
tomhawley said:he wastes a lot of chances through missing the target.
He can be so wasteful at times and then brilliant other times.
Bazzmand Show said:Blue Haze said:Mancini - ohhh said:What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Other than passing I can't think of one area where Dzeko is superior.
Maybe Ba is a player who has to be #1 and play all the time, which wouldn't work here. But objectively Ba has better weapons than Dzeko. His mobility and touch in particular are worlds better than Dzeko. This one of the reasons Dzeko goes through form dips and is not first choice in big matches: his touch is poor whether he's on form or not.
Rubbish, he is not in the same class as Dzeko. Not as good at dribbling and holding off opponents, not as good at passing, does not have as lethal a shot or header.
Bazzmand Show said:Blue Haze said:Mancini - ohhh said:What is it that they say? Form is temporary but class is permanent?
Do we all agree Dzeko is class?? but struggling for form??
Ba is in really good form!! though I think he could be class ala late bloomer ala Drogba..
He is not yet in Dzekos class..
Other than passing I can't think of one area where Dzeko is superior.
Maybe Ba is a player who has to be #1 and play all the time, which wouldn't work here. But objectively Ba has better weapons than Dzeko. His mobility and touch in particular are worlds better than Dzeko. This one of the reasons Dzeko goes through form dips and is not first choice in big matches: his touch is poor whether he's on form or not.
Rubbish, he is not in the same class as Dzeko. Not as good at dribbling and holding off opponents, not as good at passing, does not have as lethal a shot or header.
You are talking out your ARSE there! As Alky put it, Ba is one of the premier league's best forwards in possession.Bazzmand Show said:Rubbish, he is not in the same class as Dzeko. Not as good at dribbling and holding off opponents, not as good at passing, does not have as lethal a shot or header.
Danamy said:I personally wouldn't touch him............his knees are fucked
alky313 said:Bazzmand Show said:Blue Haze said:Other than passing I can't think of one area where Dzeko is superior.
Maybe Ba is a player who has to be #1 and play all the time, which wouldn't work here. But objectively Ba has better weapons than Dzeko. His mobility and touch in particular are worlds better than Dzeko. This one of the reasons Dzeko goes through form dips and is not first choice in big matches: his touch is poor whether he's on form or not.
Rubbish, he is not in the same class as Dzeko. Not as good at dribbling and holding off opponents, not as good at passing, does not have as lethal a shot or header.
.... Ba is one if the finest forwards in possession that this league has to offer.