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You can't say that about Savinho because he's young. He's so young he's barely out of nappies.
He's only 20 FFS, no Premier League player has ever played a first-team game at that age.
Derby day trains
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He's only 20 FFS, no Premier League player has ever played a first-team game at that age.
TheRightBack
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Think of working Sundays as overtime in the same way that office workers might be asked to work midnight to 6am. Sure, the money might be good, but would you do it on a regular basis if you either didn’t want to, or didn’t have to?
The industry is, broadly, unionised. The RMT is the trackside, conductors and office staff etc, whilst the drivers are ASLEF. Management are TSSA (who,indeed). Those unions make the trains safer, get involved on efficiency improvements (it would still be steam trains running if they didn’t) but they won’t be pushed around. The rest of the U.K. workforce has been systematically beaten down for decades. Not the rail unions who, generally, get cost of living pay increases and have had their hours per week negotiated over the years down to around 36 hours per week. Above that it is at premium rates, including non compulsory Sundays.
Throw in failed privatisation, years of infrastructure issues, changes of government priorities (HS2 etc) and we are where we are.It will improve but not overnight.
Great British Railways is the new idea. So too is integrating bus and tram network timetables with railway timetables. Look at what goes on abroad on transport networks and there is a lot we could learn.
The industry is, broadly, unionised. The RMT is the trackside, conductors and office staff etc, whilst the drivers are ASLEF. Management are TSSA (who,indeed). Those unions make the trains safer, get involved on efficiency improvements (it would still be steam trains running if they didn’t) but they won’t be pushed around. The rest of the U.K. workforce has been systematically beaten down for decades. Not the rail unions who, generally, get cost of living pay increases and have had their hours per week negotiated over the years down to around 36 hours per week. Above that it is at premium rates, including non compulsory Sundays.
Throw in failed privatisation, years of infrastructure issues, changes of government priorities (HS2 etc) and we are where we are.It will improve but not overnight.
Great British Railways is the new idea. So too is integrating bus and tram network timetables with railway timetables. Look at what goes on abroad on transport networks and there is a lot we could learn.
I had an issue with Monarch Airlines. Fucking loved it when they went bust.
mexico1970
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We should all support the train workers, if you could just find one :)
They can't roster staff to work on Sundays because they are not "contracted hours."
If it's not in your contract you can't be made to do it.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong but it is the current situation.
mexico1970
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Then they should be made to be contracted hours, make rosters where you work 5 out of any 7 days.
It's not hard.
jaymcfc1968
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Things aren’t looking good for travelling on Sundays next year by the looks of it.
Avanti West Coast strikes back on after offer rejected
Train managers at Avanti will now walk out on New Year's Eve and 2 January, as well as every Sunday from 12 January to 25 May.
www.bbc.co.uk
mexico1970
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Things aren’t looking good for travelling on Sundays next year by the looks of it.
Avanti West Coast strikes back on after offer rejected
Train managers at Avanti will now walk out on New Year's Eve and 2 January, as well as every Sunday from 12 January to 25 May.www.bbc.co.uk
Yesterdays cancellations on Northern rail were that bad they might as well have been on strike, not wanting to work Sundays appear to have stretched to all the other days of the week now.
SWP COME HOME!!
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Monday to Friday yeah? Every weekend off?
Your frustration at the state of the railway is shared by most (if not all) of the staff who work on it. However questioning the workforce for not working their days off at the weekend is so wide of the mark it’s untrue.
The railway is always recruiting so if you think you can fix the issue so easily then get involved, be educational for you to see what it’s actually like.
Johnny Mars Bar
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If Sundays aren’t contracted hours then that fuckup is on the railway company, not the employees.