kaz7
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Sorry i mean the source being france
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Dianne Abbott
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I genuinely think the criminal gangs who traffic them at times throughout their journey sell them this mystifying dream of UK life and they think they genuinely can massively improve their lives.Is it down to us to stop them at source? It seems to me that whilst their final choice of destination is the UK, some of the countries they pass through seem quite happy to facilitate their passage and we end up with dealing with the human misery. I can't imagination how deserate these people are that they would put themselves at such personal risk.
The reality is they will likely never own a home, have an NI number, be treated like dirt by an illegal employer and maybe end up in modern slavery conditions.
Europe seems happy to let us deal with the consequences.
If Patel can totally stop it being it being a possibility it will hopefully stop people attempting it.
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blueinsa
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Did i claim you did personally? The numbers coming by boat are a tiny amount of immigrants coming here ,not worth the gov setting the navy on them and talking like it is a national outrage,still it diverts attention
Yes you did.
It diverts from nothing. Today we have a dead boy washed up on the shores of France and its why it needs to be stopped before many more die.
It is no way to try and enter the UK to start a new life. Its dangerous, it feeds criminal gangs, it kills people.
I've already said, twice i think that the UK should pay for a centre in France along with the French so that people can present themselves for asylum and those granted can be brought here safely. In the meantime both we and the French should be doing everything possible to stop these boats.
IndeedWe agree nobody wants the crossings
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Gotcha. It was a genuine q btw. I do believe that we should work with the French to resolve the issues. I'm not sure that just saying to France that they should stop the crossings but there needs to be a better way. (That last bit is a bit obvious so sorry for that)Sorry i mean the source being france
bluethrunthru
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Gotcha. It was a genuine q btw. I do believe that we should work with the French to resolve the issues. I'm not sure that just saying to France that they should stop the crossings but there needs to be a better way. (That last bit is a bit obvious so sorry for that)
we can't be seen to be working with France or any other part of the EU at the moment - it goes completely against the narrative that we are better off without them and don't need them for anything - thats the situation the Brexit crazies have got us into. They have to come to us to ask to help us which just is not going to happen.
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Choh! Bloody foreigners. I hope that you are wrong but I fear you are correct. Utter madness. Ain't life cheap?we can't be seen to be working with France or any other part of the EU at the moment - it goes completely against the narrative that we are better off without them and don't need them for anything - thats the situation the Brexit crazies have got us into. They have to come to us to ask to help us which just is not going to happen.
bluethrunthru
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Choh! Bloody foreigners. I hope that you are wrong but I fear you are correct. Utter madness. Ain't life cheap?
and despite what some were hollering only a few weeks ago they don't all matter
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Not that migrants has anything to do with brexit of course.
It must have been brexit voters at fault for all those crossing the Med and all those crossing from North Africa.
Some very desperate and quite sad posters on here.
It must have been brexit voters at fault for all those crossing the Med and all those crossing from North Africa.
Some very desperate and quite sad posters on here.
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Short memories.and despite what some were hollering only a few weeks ago they don't all matter
I seem to have been deep in the politics forum today and I can't say that my my mood has been improved. We need some funny pet gifs or something to cheer us up.
Still homemade Thai curry for supper and first attempt at sticky rice.
bluethrunthru
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Short memories.
I seem to have been deep in the politics forum today and I can't say that my my mood has been improved. We need some funny pet gifs or something to cheer us up.
Still homemade Thai curry for supper and first attempt at sticky rice.
If you're a cat lover this will give you a giggle like it did me
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I take it that the UK must still be quite the draw given how people are prepared to risk everything to get here.Not that migrants has anything to do with brexit of course.
It must have been brexit voters at fault for all those crossing the Med and all those crossing from North Africa.
Some very desperate and quite sad posters on here.
I try to take a moment (when I remember!) to thank my lucky stars that I am in the fortunate position I am in.
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If you're a cat lover this will give you a giggle like it did me
Aaaahhh. I can feel the tension ebbing away.
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Aaaahhh. I can feel the tension ebbing away.
I laughed because thats the sort of dumbfuckery cats do - but its funny when they do lol
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I take it that the UK must still be quite the draw given how people are prepared to risk everything to get here.
I try to take a moment (when I remember!) to thank my lucky stars that I am in the fortunate position I am in.
Not especially and not for the majority. Some risk it as they are likely to have family and a network that can support them. Make it easier for people to join families in the UK and you will likely reduce the number trying to cross and reduce the risk of 16 y/o’s drowning in the channel.
Most refugees stay in the first country they enter, meaning most of the pressure is on the Med countries. Turkey has over 2m refugees, mainly from Syria.
There are no votes in making it easier for refugees. You only have to remember the collective meltdown here and across Europe when Merkel gave 1m refugees safe harbour five years ago.
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Not especially and not for the majority. Some risk it as they are likely to have family and a network that can support them. Make it easier for people to join families in the UK and you will likely reduce the number trying to cross and reduce the risk of 16 y/o’s drowning in the channel.
Most refugees stay in the first country they enter, meaning most of the pressure is on the Med countries. Turkey has over 2m refugees, mainly from Syria.
There are no votes in making it easier for refugees. You only have to remember the collective meltdown here and across Europe when Merkel gave 1m refugees safe harbour five years ago.
Imagine governments having to listen to the wishes of the population they represent, madness.
kaz7
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If you're a cat lover this will give you a giggle like it did me
Ha i love it when my cats have done that,sheer shithousery and on purpose lol
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Merkel responded to pressure and everyone was happy until it affected them and then they weren't. I don't have a position on this because I don't know what the answer is but I don't think closed borders is the answer.Not especially and not for the majority. Some risk it as they are likely to have family and a network that can support them. Make it easier for people to join families in the UK and you will likely reduce the number trying to cross and reduce the risk of 16 y/o’s drowning in the channel.
Most refugees stay in the first country they enter, meaning most of the pressure is on the Med countries. Turkey has over 2m refugees, mainly from Syria.
There are no votes in making it easier for refugees. You only have to remember the collective meltdown here and across Europe when Merkel gave 1m refugees safe harbour five years ago.
If that's your starting gambit for a new thread, stuff it.I wasn’t talking about you but if you want to create a thread then I’ll contribute.
Livingstone is a fossil and an antisemitic fossil at that, fuck whatever he says.
They probably show them selected posts from Brexiters on here about how good it's going to be here and how bad in the EU.I genuinely think the criminal gangs who traffic them at times throughout their journey sell them this mystifying dream of UK life and they think they genuinely can massively improve their lives.
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