Tevez City
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I think we did , and we will miss him until he comes back. We don`t have a single player who can do what Adam used to do for us !
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Did we miss Adam Jonhson tonight ?
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LongsightM13
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No impact player on the bench. Apart from the embarrassment to the shirt that is Viera. Oh dear. That's not the kind of impact I was thinking of.
I said our inaction on deadline day would cost us and it did.
I'm a Mancini loyalist but tonight's pathetic, gutless outrage has Roberto's fingerprints all over it.
Nothing less than all out attack at the swamp is acceptable. It's his signing, his substitution that cost us two points tonight so an Emirates display at the swamp is unacceptable.
Better to die like a lion than live like a mouse.
No more excuses. His fault, his responsibility to make it right.
I said our inaction on deadline day would cost us and it did.
I'm a Mancini loyalist but tonight's pathetic, gutless outrage has Roberto's fingerprints all over it.
Nothing less than all out attack at the swamp is acceptable. It's his signing, his substitution that cost us two points tonight so an Emirates display at the swamp is unacceptable.
Better to die like a lion than live like a mouse.
No more excuses. His fault, his responsibility to make it right.
LongsightM13 said:No impact player on the bench. Apart from the embarrassment to the shirt that is Viera. Oh dear. That's not the kind of impact I was thinking of.
I said our inaction on deadline day would cost us and it did.
I'm a Mancini loyalist but tonight's pathetic, gutless outrage has Roberto's fingerprints all over it.
Nothing less than all out attack at the swamp is acceptable. It's his signing, his substitution that cost us two points tonight so an Emirates display at the swamp is unacceptable.
Better to die like a lion than live like a mouse.
No more excuses. His fault, his responsibility to make it right.
Wow, I don't believe I've read a better analysis of football since I last picked up The Dandy.
A fit Johnson needs to be starting basically every game just because he has pace, directness, and skill, things badly lacking from the ponderous connection of Milner, Barry, and Vieira (even Yaya at times but he is a class above the previous three).
LongsightM13
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Care to expand, Damo, or just content with being condescending to the regulars as usual?Damocles said:LongsightM13 said:No impact player on the bench. Apart from the embarrassment to the shirt that is Viera. Oh dear. That's not the kind of impact I was thinking of.
I said our inaction on deadline day would cost us and it did.
I'm a Mancini loyalist but tonight's pathetic, gutless outrage has Roberto's fingerprints all over it.
Nothing less than all out attack at the swamp is acceptable. It's his signing, his substitution that cost us two points tonight so an Emirates display at the swamp is unacceptable.
Better to die like a lion than live like a mouse.
No more excuses. His fault, his responsibility to make it right.
Wow, I don't believe I've read a better analysis of football since I last picked up The Dandy.
I suppose Viera was amazing tonight and our bench was packed with match winners?
I guess we shouldn't try to win every game, let alone a Derby? Rather than playing with fear like a fourth division team away in a cup tie?
Tell me we haven't weakened our squad rather than made it stronger - quite an achievement for a club in our position.
But you know loads about politics and current affairs and science and all that shit so that makes your opinions on City more valid than anyone else's
Josh Blue
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We did miss AJ, I think we should of brought SWP on for Nige when he was injuried and shifted Milner to hold with Barry, I think we would of grabbed another goal tbh. What about Gai Assulin for the bench? Hear he can open up a game is he ready for the bench?
SWP wasn't in the squad, apparently left at carrington ''fitness training in preparation for the weekend''?? Hope he's back soon, our bench tonight was severely lacking. Wish we still had bellamy, he should be straight into that squad.
LongsightM13 said:Care to expand, Damo, or just content with being condescending to the regulars as usual?Damocles said:Wow, I don't believe I've read a better analysis of football since I last picked up The Dandy.
I suppose Viera was amazing tonight and our bench was packed with match winners?
I guess we shouldn't try to win every game, let alone a Derby? Rather than playing with fear like a fourth division team away in a cup tie?
Tell me we haven't weakened our squad rather than made it stronger - quite an achievement for a club in our position.
But you know loads about politics and current affairs and science and all that shit so that makes your opinions on City more valid than anyone else's
Oh look, more fun.
Ok, I'll start at the very top and work my way down. For the record, binary opposition doesn't work in football arguments. Just because I disagree that our bench was shit, doesn't mean that I think our bench was amazing. I can't argue with somebody who believes that the world works like that
No impact player on the bench. Apart from the embarrassment to the shirt that is Viera. Oh dear. That's not the kind of impact I was thinking of.
Vieira is an embarrassment to the shirt now? The same shirt that has held Gerry Creaney, George Weah and Craig Russell? Do me a favour.
What impact player would you have liked to have on our bench who is currently in the squad? One legged Balotelli? He might be good, but he isn't the Golden PegLeg of the Pirate World Cup. Maybe Adam Johnson could have won the ball in the air with his crutch? Perhaps the three foot nothing, slowing SWP would have been a better choice against a large Birmingham team when we needed a centre mid?
Nobody claimed Vieira was an impact payer apart from you, and if you believe that when your only DM goes down, you should bring on an impact player, then your thinking of ice hockey.
I said our inaction on deadline day would cost us and it did.
Really? How? Should we have bought somebody on the off chance that Vieira would give away a penalty at Birmingham? I mean, screw FFPR and all that European competition stuff, we might drop two points!
I'm a Mancini loyalist but tonight's pathetic, gutless outrage has Roberto's fingerprints all over it.
Outrage? Drawing at Birmingham is an outrage? What the fuck was Forest in the FA Cup, or York away? Murderous?
Anyway, why is it suddenly Mancini's fault that we had an off day? If you have a bad day at work, does your manger get the sack? Isn't there a piece missing in the chain of logic there?
Nothing less than all out attack at the swamp is acceptable.
Ok, this is where this started moving into the surreal. Because we drew at Birmingham, you want to go all out attack away to a team that has recently hit top form and hasn't been beaten all season, when we have half a squad out with injuries?
That isn't brave, that's stupid. Titles aren't won by winning at Old Trafford, they are won by not getting beat at Old Trafford. Besides, if we did try this, they'd murder us, and then what? If we get stuffed 5-0 are you going to hold your hands up and say "well, at least we constantly tried to attack - it was instantly broken down by the best counterattacking/interception team on the planet, but at east we tried". No, you're going to go off of your head and demand Mancini to be sacked.
It's his signing, his substitution that cost us two points tonight so an Emirates display at the swamp is unacceptable.
What about all of those times that his signing has won us the game? Where are you praising him for that? You can't seperate the team like this, especially when you are approaching it without any balance to your argument. You're an extremeist, you aren't considering other sides of the viewpoint and are applying mistakes to Mancini that have no causality. Why do you think De Jong went off? Boredom?
Better to die like a lion than live like a mouse.
The actual phrase is "Better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees", which was foreshadowed quite well in Catch 22, with the officer saying "No, no! You got it all wrong! It is better to live on your feet than to die on your knees". The point is, are you willing to throw away all of the progress we've made towards the CL spots for the sake of...what? Your own personal entertainment? You think you know football and how to win games better than Mancini? You don't. I don't. None of us on here do.
No more excuses. His fault, his responsibility to make it right.
Not sure how giving away a very dodgy pen to draw away at Birmingham is exactly "his fault", but I'm pretty sure that he isn't sat around on a forum bleating about it, but will currently be watching the game again with his coaching staff to find the points that he can raise with the team. Basically, while you're sat here proclaiming who has responsibility to do what and when, he's actually doing his job.
LongsightM13
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A few responses to Damo's version of 'The Iliad' if I may.
1. Never once have I ever called for Mancini's head. I'm a huge admirer and have, in fact, been accused of being a happy clapper on here.
2. Our squad is significantly weaker than on Dec 31.
3. Mancini signed Viera. Mancini thinks he can still cut it in the Prem. He can't, and no amount of excuses can escape harsh reality.
4. I have never been a footballer so I must be thick and know nothing. On this basis, Alan Ball was a brilliant coach.
5.Our lack of bench options, Ade, Bells, SWP etc, is because Mancini has got rid of them or alienated them. His policy, so it must be his responsibility if all we have is Jo and Guidetti.
7. Mancini has come out after the game and admitted he made a bollocks of it tonight. So I refer you back to your earlier point. Do. you know better than him by saying different?
1. Never once have I ever called for Mancini's head. I'm a huge admirer and have, in fact, been accused of being a happy clapper on here.
2. Our squad is significantly weaker than on Dec 31.
3. Mancini signed Viera. Mancini thinks he can still cut it in the Prem. He can't, and no amount of excuses can escape harsh reality.
4. I have never been a footballer so I must be thick and know nothing. On this basis, Alan Ball was a brilliant coach.
5.Our lack of bench options, Ade, Bells, SWP etc, is because Mancini has got rid of them or alienated them. His policy, so it must be his responsibility if all we have is Jo and Guidetti.
7. Mancini has come out after the game and admitted he made a bollocks of it tonight. So I refer you back to your earlier point. Do. you know better than him by saying different?