Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

[lasereyes]

Very odd that he seems to be deploying KDB wide when we know he is devastating though the middle. Treatment of kelechi is hurting the team and not just the young lad. If ever there was a game that needed him it was Sunday. I like pelle but he is one baffling manager.

Kelechi will get his minutes, more and more as the season goes on. For all those thinking he should be full thrust, frontline, keep in mind he had a major injury last year and also was injured earlier this year. There is good sense in easing him in. Also, look at Martial. Started off quite impressively (albeit against powder puff opponents), but is becoming less and less impressive as other teams focus more on him. It's an exceptionally rare teenager who can carry an attack and by far the more likely outcome is early burnout.

 

[forevermancity]

Kelechi will get his minutes, more and more as the season goes on. For all those thinking he should be full thrust, frontline, keep in mind he had a major injury last year and also was injured earlier this year. There is good sense in easing him in. Also, look at Martial. Started off quite impressively (albeit against powder puff opponents), but is becoming less and less impressive as other teams focus more on him. It's an exceptionally rare teenager who can carry an attack and by far the more likely outcome is early burnout.

With aguero being injured I'm disappointed that he hasn't had more minutes. When aguero and bony are injured and he sticks KDb up top instead of him, that will worry the young lad. Stinks of lopes and to a lesser extent denayer

 

[Shaelumstash]

Another essay. Ignoring some fairly basic things:

1. MP did not deem his plan fatally flawed after 25 mins. Change was forced on him by Bony's injury.

2. "Feeling bad for Navas" - this is professional sport. No room for sentimentality. He brought Navas on because he saw we had started the game at very low tempo, and Navas always speeds up our game. Very fair call - and justified by the way Navas played and the chances he created.

Also interesting is how you conclude that an 18 year old kid with 1 Premier league goal and that a tap-in is a better finisher than two others with 12 goals between them in 26 appearances. One of whom has been top notch in front of goal hitherto.

1. Change in shape wasn't forced on him. He had the option to bring a on a centre forward to replace the injured one.

2. Bringing Navas on to increase the tempo is not exclusive of bringing on a centre forward. It's quite plausible that he could have done both an sacrificed a holding midfielder.

Mate, a goal scoring midfielder is very different to a centre forward. Just because a player has a good shot on them it doesn't mean they can play centre forward. It's a specialist position. As you said, it's professional sport. Navas has put in some great tackles, but I don't want him to play centre half. Leave that to the specialist centre halves.

 

[lasereyes]

1. Change in shape wasn't forced on him. He had the option to bring a on a centre forward to replace the injured one.

2. Bringing Navas on to increase the tempo is not exclusive of bringing on a centre forward. It's quite plausible that he could have done both an sacrificed a holding midfielder.

Mate, a goal scoring midfielder is very different to a centre forward. Just because a player has a good shot on them it doesn't mean they can play centre forward. It's a specialist position. As you said, it's professional sport. Navas has put in some great tackles, but I don't want him to play centre half. Leave that to the specialist centre halves.

1. Kelechi is a totally different player to Bony. So change was forced.
2. You're still treating as fact that Kelechi is a better finisher than DeBruyne or Sterling.

 

[lasereyes]

With aguero being injured I'm disappointed that he hasn't had more minutes. When aguero and bony are injured and he sticks KDb up top instead of him, that will worry the young lad. Stinks of lopes and to a lesser extent denayer

I think he could have brought Kelechi on earlier, but I dont think it was an egregious error. Have you been watching what's happening to Martial?

 

[Shaelumstash]

1. Kelechi is a totally different player to Bony. So change was forced.
2. You're still treating as fact that Kelechi is a better finisher than DeBruyne or Sterling.

I think you're totally missing the point mate. There is more to being a centre forward than being a good finisher.

It's the only position on the pitch where you spend the overwhelming majority of the game with the ball behind you. It takes a different kind of movement to get in to space, to hold the ball up, to get in behind, to steal a yard to create a chance.

I'm not sure if you ever played football to any standard mate, but did you ever try and play up front? There's a reason they say it's the hardest position to play in football.

Most midfielders could step in and do a job at full back, the physical ones who can read the game well often make excellent centre backs. But ask them to go and play up front and it's like asking a fish to juggle.

It takes a hell of a lot more than "a good finish" to play there. It's a specialist position, second only to goalkeeper in the uniqueness of the skills required to play there. Kalechi has the natural ability to play centre forward, De Bruyne and Sterling do not.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sure he ain't perfect but tell me who the fcuk is?

Ahem...

 

[Ducado]

Ahem...

The ego has landed

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The ego has landed

I'm here to break up all the fighting. I'm Bluemoon's Henry Kissinger.

 

[Ducado]

I'm here to break up all the fighting. I'm Bluemoon's Henry Kissinger.

Hmmmmm