Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[kalouk]

I think too much emphasis is placed on Pellegrini's temperament. He may be more reserved in public but the players have said he will give it out in the dressing room if needed. I prefer his personality I find it more professional and like that he doesn't get involved with trivia from the media etc. I would respond better to someone who was calm than someone ranting. I understand the attraction of Klopp from some fans point of view but maybe it isn't suited to the dressing room with a lot of our players.

Well a lot of our players are soft then if that's the case (which I don't think it is)
Seeing the adulation for Klopp in their last game tells me how well thought of and respected he is.

I don't see how it makes the players soft? I just think there is as much merit in someone remaining calm in a pressure situation as someone who goes mental. It may be that our players respond better to calmness. I don't doubt Klopp is popular etc I only mentioned him as many fans prefer his personality and feel it is what they like in a manager but it may not be the best fit for our dressing room.

 

[Phil1]

I think too much emphasis is placed on Pellegrini's temperament. He may be more reserved in public but the players have said he will give it out in the dressing room if needed. I prefer his personality I find it more professional and like that he doesn't get involved with trivia from the media etc. I would respond better to someone who was calm than someone ranting. I understand the attraction of Klopp from some fans point of view but maybe it isn't suited to the dressing room with a lot of our players.

Well a lot of our players are soft then if that's the case (which I don't think it is)
Seeing the adulation for Klopp in their last game tells me how well thought of and respected he is.

I don't see how it makes the players soft? I just think there is as much merit in someone remaining calm in a pressure situation as someone who goes mental. It may be that our players respond better to calmness. I don't doubt Klopp is popular etc I only mentioned him as many fans prefer his personality and feel it is what they like in a manager but it may not be the best fit for our dressing room.

Without wishing to drag this out, the calm measured approach hasn't worked this season in much the same way Mancini's abrasive style didn't work in his last year with us. So what exactly do our players respond to?
Going back to why it makes a player soft - I think if a professional footballer can't peform unless he's being mollycoddled then I'd say it's a soft mentality.

 

[Damocles]

I will do what i have always done,praise when relevant and moan when he fucks up
Balance is everything

Fair enough.

FWIW i'm well aware of how i behaved with regards Mancini. I stand by a lot of what I said about him but i'm also not proud of some of the things i said. We live and learn from these things.

Either way I think going back to where this started, if the club are going to wait a year for Pep i see no problem with that because I don't think they'll wait unless they know he's coming.

Very noble of you. I think you should have a word with your mate to do the same. It's time.

Is it ever possible for a single day that you can refrain from being a dick?

There was absolutely no reason for that provocation at all.

 

[VOOMER]

If the players think, or know they can go over the managers head to a sympathetic voice who will effect change to their liking then you have a problem.

 

[kalouk]

Well a lot of our players are soft then if that's the case (which I don't think it is)
Seeing the adulation for Klopp in their last game tells me how well thought of and respected he is.

I don't see how it makes the players soft? I just think there is as much merit in someone remaining calm in a pressure situation as someone who goes mental. It may be that our players respond better to calmness. I don't doubt Klopp is popular etc I only mentioned him as many fans prefer his personality and feel it is what they like in a manager but it may not be the best fit for our dressing room.

Without wishing to drag this out, the calm measured approach hasn't worked this season in much the same way Mancini's abrasive style didn't work in his last year with us. So what exactly do our players respond to?
Going back to why it makes a player soft - I think if a professional footballer can't peform unless he's being mollycoddled then I'd say it's a soft mentality.

I totally agree with you in so far as what the players want and have said the same thing on here. Two different managers with totally different approaches, same result second season. My only point really was that what some see as a failing in Pellegrini I see as a strength. I would prefer someone who keeps there head and remains calm. I like that he admits he isn't calm on the inside but feels there is no benefit to his players if he is going mental on the touchline. I like his personality. As far as a soft mentality goes I believe the opposite if players of our quality need someone else to get them hyped up for a game then something is wrong. I suppose it comes down to peoples personality, I would respond better to Pellegrini's style, you may respond better to someone like Klopp.

 

[Phil1]

I don't see how it makes the players soft? I just think there is as much merit in someone remaining calm in a pressure situation as someone who goes mental. It may be that our players respond better to calmness. I don't doubt Klopp is popular etc I only mentioned him as many fans prefer his personality and feel it is what they like in a manager but it may not be the best fit for our dressing room.

Without wishing to drag this out, the calm measured approach hasn't worked this season in much the same way Mancini's abrasive style didn't work in his last year with us. So what exactly do our players respond to?
Going back to why it makes a player soft - I think if a professional footballer can't peform unless he's being mollycoddled then I'd say it's a soft mentality.

I totally agree with you in so far as what the players want and have said the same thing on here. Two different managers with totally different approaches, same result second season. My only point really was that what some see as a failing in Pellegrini I see as a strength. I would prefer someone who keeps there head and remains calm. I like that he admits he isn't calm on the inside but feels there is no benefit to his players if he is going mental on the touchline. I like his personality. As far as a soft mentality goes I believe the opposite if players of our quality need someone else to get them hyped up for a game then something is wrong. I suppose it comes down to peoples personality, I would respond better to Pellegrini's style, you may respond better to someone like Klopp.

I suppose in an ideal world our manager would be calm and considered as opposed to a ranting maniac! Haha! I guess it comes down to wherever or not he's got it in him to be a ranting maniac when required. that's the crux of it. A manager who knows when to turn on the fireworks and when to hold it in. It seems we've had two extremes in the last 6 years so will be interesting to see what the next man brings. That's not to say I think Pellegrini will be out in the summer - it seems more and more likely at the moment that he'll be allowed to finish his contract.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I will do what i have always done,praise when relevant and moan when he fucks up
Balance is everything

Fair enough.

FWIW i'm well aware of how i behaved with regards Mancini. I stand by a lot of what I said about him but i'm also not proud of some of the things i said. We live and learn from these things.

Either way I think going back to where this started, if the club are going to wait a year for Pep i see no problem with that because I don't think they'll wait unless they know he's coming.

Very noble of you. I think you should have a word with your mate to do the same. It's time.

You talking about me?

There's not a single thing I said about Mancini I regret. Time has proven me to be correct.

But that war is long over. Now the management debate isn't clouded by irrational and angry fanboys its a lot better for all on the forum.

Pellegrini can stay for me, but if he goes you won't get me demanding statements from the board and ripping up my season ticket like a lovestruck schoolboy. He's a hired hand like all managers.

 

[Bill]

the bottom line here is that had we kept bobby we'd be champions again. more importantly we'd be signing a much better class of player during this window.

 

[Seosa]

the bottom line here is that had we kept bobby we'd be champions again. more importantly we'd be signing a much better class of player during this window.

Your brand of WUMming is faltering fast, Bill...

 

[mosssideblue]

I haven't a problem with Peller's temperament and his Pressers. The press deserve nothing.
I do have a problem with his team set up and tactics. the defensive tactics, corners and set pieces especially are dreadful. The sooner he is gone the better.

Your right, he is useless at set pieces. Oh, and for corners, don't get me started, you would think Pellers would stop taking them and let one of the players take them - how many times has Pellers not got passed the first man !