Disiplinary at work

[Carstairs]

You knew the rules about phone use and you knowingly broke them. Now you're having a whinge about having to face a disciplinary.

I give up....

 

[meldrew]

Lol st the above to wind up merchants!

Not whinging, asking for advice.

 

[Dubai Blue]

The advice is to hold your hands up, admit you've done wrong and take the warning in your stride.

You really don't have a leg to stand on in this matter, so the above is the only course of action you can possibly take.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Lol st the above to wind up merchants!

Not whinging, asking for advice.

If you have already owned up and on a verbal i should imagine a final written is on the cards mate(especially if your gaffer is a ****),they can last for 12 months so you need to be carefull fella.

 

[Timmmmahhhh]

I had this when I worked in debt management, cos you have readily accessible "sensitive data".

I got gripped twice in a week. Just hold your hands up, admit it, apologise and don't get caught again.

I got a verbal warning, lasted 6 months.

Where is it you work?

Robinson way mate, yeah had the verbal so its next stage now.

There's a couple in Stockport, all twats to work for.

Churchwood and Moorcroft to name two.

 

[meldrew]

Lol st the above to wind up merchants!

Not whinging, asking for advice.

If you have already owned up and on a verbal i should imagine a final written is on the cards mate(especially if your gaffer is a ****),they can last for 12 months so you need to be carefull fella.

Yeah it goes verbal, informal then final written or so im led to believe.

The job hunt goes on in the meantime though!!

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Take it on the chin mate, quietly, politely and apologetically. And then plant dog porn on his computer

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

You knew the rules about phone use and you knowingly broke them. Now you're having a whinge about having to face a disciplinary.

I give up....

Very much this.
You know the rules - you broke them,now take the rap and move on,with your fucking phone turned off in future.
Or find another job,and let somebody do the one you are fortunate enough to be doing who isn't a numpty who thinks that company rules don't apply to them.

 

[the kippax wall]

If you are represented by a Union, take a rep in with you. Ask them to point out that the use of mobile phones is cultural in your workplace and to single you out is potentially discriminationary practice on the part of the Manager in question. Suggest that a soulution would be to put a memo out to all staff (which they have to sign) outlining the company policy on mobile phones at work.
However, as you have already been warned about this in the past, you will probably be struggling on this one... Good luck!

 

[Pigeonho]

Our company has a cuntish policy like this. In 2002 when my ex was due to give birth, I point blank refused to turn my phone off incase I was required at home. They didn't like it but the union said they couldn't do anything to touch me. As others have said, say you needed it on and that way they too shouldn't be able to touch you.

 

[Carstairs]

If you are represented by a Union, take a rep in with you. Ask them to point out that the use of mobile phones is cultural in your workplace and to single you out is potentially discriminationary practice on the part of the Manager in question. Suggest that a soulution would be to put a memo out to all staff (which they have to sign) outlining the company policy on mobile phones at work.
However, as you have already been warned about this in the past, you will probably be struggling on this one... Good luck!

You don't seem like the popular type as it is, but by following this advice all your colleagues will really start to hate you.

;)

 

[BlueHammer85]

Im shocked companys dont allow this.

im always sitting on my mobile playing brickbreaker between waiting for emails to flood through, never even crossed my mind the boss would get pissed off.

 

[kinkysleftfoot]

Not many are gonna like this, but I work in telephony doing debt collection.

It was a few minutes before my break, I believe I can get an informal warning but with it being the manager I think has a problem making the decision it could be final written.

Suggest you hold your hands up and say sorry!

You say you have been caught before, how many times have you done it and not been caught? If your in the wrong just man up and take it on the chin and don't do it again!

 

[the kippax wall]

If you are represented by a Union, take a rep in with you. Ask them to point out that the use of mobile phones is cultural in your workplace and to single you out is potentially discriminationary practice on the part of the Manager in question. Suggest that a soulution would be to put a memo out to all staff (which they have to sign) outlining the company policy on mobile phones at work.
However, as you have already been warned about this in the past, you will probably be struggling on this one... Good luck!

You don't seem like the popular type as it is, but by following this advice all your colleagues will really start to hate you.



;)

I don't see it like that. If everyone is clearly made aware what is expected and the potential consequences of ignoring a directive, then there is no 'sitting duck' scenarios, where a manager/ supervisor can cherry pick individuals they dislike and then throw the book at them. If anything, following this advice will potentially prevent colleagues being put in the same situation in future.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

If you are represented by a Union, take a rep in with you. Ask them to point out that the use of mobile phones is cultural in your workplace and to single you out is potentially discriminationary practice on the part of the Manager in question. Suggest that a soulution would be to put a memo out to all staff (which they have to sign) outlining the company policy on mobile phones at work.
However, as you have already been warned about this in the past, you will probably be struggling on this one... Good luck!

You don't seem like the popular type as it is, but by following this advice all your colleagues will really start to hate you.



;)

I don't see it like that. If everyone is clearly made aware what is expected and the potential consequences of ignoring a directive, then there is no 'sitting duck' scenarios, where a manager/ supervisor can cherry pick individuals they dislike and then throw the book at them. If anything, following this advice will potentially prevent colleagues being put in the same situation in future.

But he was fully aware of the rules - he got collared only four weeks before.
So ignorance of the regulations doesn't apply,whereas complete stupidity does.
I just don't see why anyone would defend somebody who was fortunate enough to have a job in today's economic climate and is daft enough to jeopardise his position by breaking the same rule twice in a month,and then moans as a result of having to face disciplinary proceedings.

 

[Carstairs]

You don't seem like the popular type as it is, but by following this advice all your colleagues will really start to hate you.



;)

I don't see it like that. If everyone is clearly made aware what is expected and the potential consequences of ignoring a directive, then there is no 'sitting duck' scenarios, where a manager/ supervisor can cherry pick individuals they dislike and then throw the book at them. If anything, following this advice will potentially prevent colleagues being put in the same situation in future.

But he was fully aware of the rules - he got collared only four weeks before.
So ignorance of the regulations doesn't apply,whereas complete stupidity does.
I just don't see why anyone would defend somebody who was fortunate enough to have a job in today's economic climate and is daft enough to jeopardise his position by breaking the same rule twice in a month,and then moans as a result of having to face disciplinary proceedings.

More to the point, he is then being advised to moan that everyone else gets away with it. The management of the company will then come down harder on everyone and your complainant is seen by all as the one who caused it.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Im shocked companys dont allow this.

Many financial companies don't allow staff to use mobile phones while on shift as they could be used to take copies of sensitive data. They don't even allow staff to have writing implements. You can't take screen prints or print stuff off. There is a legal duty under Data Protection legislation to ensure the security of the data and that's one of the ways they do it. It sounds harsh but that's the way it is and I'm sure the staff will be aware of the requirement. I'm surprised they even allow you to have your phone with you and switched on.

As a former union rep, I would say that the way to deal with it is to admit you did it but get the rep to stress that the rule isn't being enforced properly and that he believes you've been singled out. I would (as a rep) even suggest a tightening of the rule, claiming it's too easy just to get your phone out to check it, making it more likely staff will risk offending and that you either have to leave it in a locker or at least switch it off during your shift.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

I don't see it like that. If everyone is clearly made aware what is expected and the potential consequences of ignoring a directive, then there is no 'sitting duck' scenarios, where a manager/ supervisor can cherry pick individuals they dislike and then throw the book at them. If anything, following this advice will potentially prevent colleagues being put in the same situation in future.

But he was fully aware of the rules - he got collared only four weeks before.
So ignorance of the regulations doesn't apply,whereas complete stupidity does.
I just don't see why anyone would defend somebody who was fortunate enough to have a job in today's economic climate and is daft enough to jeopardise his position by breaking the same rule twice in a month,and then moans as a result of having to face disciplinary proceedings.

More to the point, he is then being advised to moan that everyone else gets away with it. The management of the company will then come down harder on everyone and your complainant is seen by all as the one who caused it.

If I were the boss,I would be investing in a four foot blue butt plug,and making it clear in company regulations in flashing neon lights that any member of staff who turns on their phone in company time will have the blue monster inserted to the hilt,without the aid of lube.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Im shocked companys dont allow this.

Many financial companies don't allow staff to use mobile phones while on shift as they could be used to take copies of sensitive data. They don't even allow staff to have writing implements. You can't take screen prints or print stuff off. There is a legal duty under Data Protection legislation to ensure the security of the data and that's one of the ways they do it. It sounds harsh but that's the way it is and I'm sure the staff will be aware of the requirement. I'm surprised they even allow you to have your phone with you and switched on.

As a former union rep, I would say that the way to deal with it is to admit you did it but get the rep to stress that the rule isn't being enforced properly and that he believes you've been singled out. I would (as a rep) even suggest a tightening of the rule, claiming it's too easy just to get your phone out to check it, making it more likely staff will risk offending and that you either have to leave it in a locker or at least switch it off during your shift.

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Its much worse in most companys,especially the food manufacturing business where it can be gross misconduct for using your phone or chewing(eating) & smoking....In most cases its straight dismissal no warnings!

 

[the kippax wall]

You don't seem like the popular type as it is, but by following this advice all your colleagues will really start to hate you.



;)

I don't see it like that. If everyone is clearly made aware what is expected and the potential consequences of ignoring a directive, then there is no 'sitting duck' scenarios, where a manager/ supervisor can cherry pick individuals they dislike and then throw the book at them. If anything, following this advice will potentially prevent colleagues being put in the same situation in future.

But he was fully aware of the rules - he got collared only four weeks before.
So ignorance of the regulations doesn't apply,whereas complete stupidity does.
I just don't see why anyone would defend somebody who was fortunate enough to have a job in today's economic climate and is daft enough to jeopardise his position by breaking the same rule twice in a month,and then moans as a result of having to face disciplinary proceedings.

I agree that doing the same thing twice in a month was foolish and will probably result in disciplinary measures against him. However, the use of mobiles in the workplace is an ever increasing problem for companys/ organisations to manage. And rather than throw the book at selected employees, I think that any right minded Union/ Management team should work together to find a solution.