Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

It's a right fucker that spellcheck, changing perfectly spelt words ;)
I’m getting used to IOS17. It seems to have messed up spell and grammar check. (Seriously, by the way. It’s really annoying)

I guess I didn’t spell it close enough to defarmnation for it to switch to the proper spelling.
 
As good a thread as any I suppose. Is the world falling apart?


I genuinely hope he gets the same treatment in prison as he dished out. The sick ****.
 
I know, firsthand, how supposed “facts” can be manipulated and twisted to make someone look like someone they aren’t, then placed strategically into the media, using keywords that set off the alarm bells, and it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to stop the spread of that virus.

I’ll believe Russell Brand unless and until a jury convicts him of a crime, no matter how I feel about his comedy or schtick. The internet is the Wild, Wild West, but it’s really a multi-trillion dollar sewer!
 
I know, firsthand, how supposed “facts” can be manipulated and twisted to make someone look like someone they aren’t, then placed strategically into the media, using keywords that set off the alarm bells, and it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to stop the spread of that virus.

I’ll believe Russell Brand unless and until a jury convicts him of a crime, no matter how I feel about his comedy or schtick. The internet is the Wild, Wild West, but it’s really a multi-trillion dollar sewer!
I mean without it proven the guy is clearly a fucking wrongun. I don’t get this. It’s the same as Mendy. They are both animals, guilty by law or not.
 
I know, firsthand, how supposed “facts” can be manipulated and twisted to make someone look like someone they aren’t, then placed strategically into the media, using keywords that set off the alarm bells, and it becomes IMPOSSIBLE to stop the spread of that virus.

I’ll believe Russell Brand unless and until a jury convicts him of a crime, no matter how I feel about his comedy or schtick. The internet is the Wild, Wild West, but it’s really a multi-trillion dollar sewer!

If we flip the script and say the accusers are liars and slandering him. Do you believe them too until that's proven in a court of law? Or is it just the person accused of a rape that gets the benefit of the your doubt in this case?

I kind of get why someone might decide they don't want to make their mind up until a case has been heard in court, but I think it's a real leap to say you you actively believe him. Outside of a legal context, if I had to lean towards believing anyone, it would probably be toward the person who has the apologetic texts messages received from his phone.

I know it feels safe and less complicated to just say you believe an offence hasn't taken place until it's proven beyond all doubt and a guilty verdict issued in a court of law. But given rape is an extremely difficult crime to prove in a court of law and the overwhelming majority of rapes never result in a conviction, it does mean that anyone adopting that stance needs to face the uncomfortable truth that they are choosing to believe rapists over victims most of the time. How we deal with this I don't know, but when it comes to simply making a personal judgement or forming an opinion on the matter, it can't be right that so many people say: "I believe the accused". The fact remains that every person in this thread is more likey to be raped and see their accuser go unpunished, than they are to be falsely accused of rape.
 

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