Do you agree with Capello? (Regarding Pep)

[mcfcphil]

 

[wolviedinho]

No but I do agree with pointless possession. Especially with players who are not technical enough to carry out said task.

City for me have transferred too many players who run into blind alleys and can’t operate in tight spaces. The last of proper creative ball players is astonishing.

The criticism of pep is allowed. He said it himself. He ain’t perfect but still a great coach and one who I admire greatly for what he has given city. One or two crap seasons won’t change that.

I’m not sure how he goes again. It’s a huge ask.

 

[Shazza458]

We can’t do anything with the midfield we have currently.

That’s the crux of our issue

 

[N1985]

18 trophies the mad bastard has won, 18!

If he wants to keep doing things his way then I'm all for it and if it all fails, it fucking fails. The man is the biggest legend this club has and will ever produce. No other manager will ever come close to him.

The disrespect shown to him over the last 6 months has been nothing short of disgusting

Fabio fucking Capello. Can go fuck himself and fuck OP whilst he's at it.

 

[Edghill OG]

Porto Champions League final line-up I felt a bit like that. Almost as though it was more important for him to win with a 'false 9' than it was winning it at all.

Love the man and to get to the top you need have to have a certain level of arrogance and self-belief. That CL Final stings though. Been the best team in Europe for about 7 or 8 years and we should have more than one to show for it.

 

[Eccles Blue]

No I don’t! Capello’s a fool.

 

[cookster]

I've been a recent critic of Pep and believe his style of football needs to evolve to be considered the template for future success.
However, Capello's take comes across as bitter and uninformed.

FWIW I don't think this current version of City represents years 2-3 of Peps rein. Just going back to the basis of that era, i.e. constant press, quick counters would transform the current group.

 

[citizen_maine]

No I don’t! Capello’s a fool.

 

[Eaststander1]

Yep, I was thinking along similar lines. It's better than the low of before Christmas, but still a good way off where we want to be. Unfortunately, especially the longer City go without scoring, you feel this team has at least one lapse per game in it.

Yep, you could definitely 'feel' that Forest goal coming yesterday as we entered the last ten minutes ..... Gvardiol, Doku just didn't do enough there for me as that long ball was slung crossfield to Hudson Odoi .. and Ederson should clearly have done better too, he was a good position to save that.

 

[5 Hit Gibbon]

Fabio fucking Capello. Can go fuck himself

Yep, he's a massive ****! He hardly set the world alight with his exciting brand of football when he was England manager, did he?

 

[N1985]

Yep, he's a massive ****! He hardly set the world alight with his exciting brand of football when he was England manager, did he?

Arrogant boring **** who had one of the best ever England squads and did absolutely fuck all with it. Pep would have won World Cups with 3 different England squads.

It's a bit like taking parenting advice off Fred West.

 

[Cityfan]

I've been a recent critic of Pep and believe his style of football needs to evolve to be considered the template for future success.

The thing is that his style has evolved many times and quite dramatically at times during his time at City.
Reasoned criticism can be interesting to debate , but too much of the criticism amounts to 'because our results are poor(though by no means all of them ) It must be Peps ability to tactically plan' , ignoring the myriad of other problems in the squad.

Pep undoubtedly bears some of the responsibility for the squad but there is no particular reason to suppose that this is going to continue.

 

[CC1]

The thing is that his style has evolved many times and quite dramatically at times during his time at City.
Reasoned criticism can be interesting to debate , but too much of the criticism amounts to 'because our results are poor(though by no means all of them ) It must be Peps ability to tactically plan' , ignoring the myriad of other problems in the squad.

Pep undoubtedly bears some of the responsibility for the squad but there is no particular reason to suppose that this is going to continue.

No other manager could cope with the injuries we’ve had to significant players

That sums our season up

 

[cookster]

The thing is that his style has evolved many times and quite dramatically at times during his time at City.
Reasoned criticism can be interesting to debate , but too much of the criticism amounts to 'because our results are poor(though by no means all of them ) It must be Peps ability to tactically plan' , ignoring the myriad of other problems in the squad.

Pep undoubtedly bears some of the responsibility for the squad but there is no particular reason to suppose that this is going to continue.

No overreaction from me but, the hard facts are we still have a squad, albeit ageing and injury prone that is massively underperforming on a number of levels.
The football at times is robotic and ultra safe.

If we don't qualify for the CL with the 2nd highest wage bill in world football, the buck stops with Pep.

He's out greatest manager ever so, is allowed an off season to rebuild but, my fear is we don't seem to be making any progress and the malaise will spill over to next season.

 

[mexico1970]

Sounds like he has got an axe to grind, fuck off you were a shit England manager and will be remembered as such.

 

[cookster]

No other manager could cope with the injuries we’ve had to significant players

That sums our season up

Rodri is the only significant injury, possibly Bobb.
Ake, Stones are always injured, KDB in the past and we've always coped.
Not many others managers would be given 180m in January to help.

 

[thegoatsthegoat]

This point is often missed, even by blues. The tactics have evolved over time and it is reasonable to argue that the PL has developed a defence to where they are now. A new direction is needed and the worry is whether Pep is too stubborn to find one. He has spoken both in favour of further development and against it.
Personally I have argued often that a much faster tempo is required and I firmly believe that is the key issue. Currently we play into the opposition’s hands by giving them time to reset the low block.
It will be interesting to see the next phase. I’m not sure which path Pep will take.

Bang on the money and I actually revisited conversations from after we beat Wolves this season away. Unbeaten, top of the league but I could sense this way of playing has become easier for teams to combat. The lack of Rodri is obviously telling and he is hugely missed but the slow build up doesn't work, espeically when the other team have a good shape and are stronger and faster to then get us on the transition, like we saw yesterday for the millionth time. Pep even spoke of it in the presser afterwards. He should know, time will tell if he can adapt and innovate again as he has done in the past. I see no reason why he can't but this seasons approach has been worrying

 

[Cityfan]

No overreaction from me but, the hard facts are we still have a squad, albeit ageing and injury prone that is massively underperforming on a number of levels.
The football at times is robotic and ultra safe.

If we don't qualify for the CL with the 2nd highest wage bill in world football, the buck stops with Pep.

He's out greatest manager ever so, is allowed an off season to rebuild but, my fear is we don't seem to be making any progress and the malaise will spill over to next season.

Most of the football we play is not robotic and ultrasafe, the majority of matches we have lost have been due to cockups with a continually changing defensive line up due to injury and a midfield that is passed it. We are still the second highest goal scorers in the PL.

Our wage bill is to high but many of our highest paid players are passed it which is maybe a planning fault but it is not a tactical fault.

 

[CC1]

Rodri is the only significant injury, possibly Bobb.
Ake, Stones are always injured, KDB in the past and we've always coped.
Not many others managers would be given 180m in January to help.

But the point you’re missing is that we had up to 10 first team players - who won the league last year - out at the same time.
That’s indisputable

 

[Cityfan]

Rodri is the only significant injury, possibly Bobb.
Ake, Stones are always injured, KDB in the past and we've always coped.
Not many others managers would be given 180m in January to help.

Ake isn't always injured Stones' injuries have been worse this season and Akanji and Dias have been injured for much of the season plus Walker going awol. The only fit first choice player we have consistently been able to field at the back is Gvardiol.