Do you support the RMT?

[joe123]

Do you feel comfortable that, because he politely declined to take a Christmas party booking, all union members across Bristol have been told to boycott his pub in both professional and personal capacities? Bully boy tactics if you ask me.

He didn’t want their business - why feel uncomfortable about him not getting it?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Do you feel comfortable that, because he politely declined to take a Christmas party booking, all union members across Bristol have been told to boycott his pub in both professional and personal capacities? Bully boy tactics if you ask me.

Yes I do actually.

 

[Vic]

So in your world view, you seem to believe that there are only two sectors in the economy, and two types of workers, namely public and private.

And regardless of where you work in the private sector, what job you do, how much you get paid, whether you can have your heating on or eat properly, you have to pay ever higher levels of tax and work longer so that public sector workers can receive what you judge to be a fair rate of pay, and be completely insulated from rising inflation.

This logic presumably extends to the postal and rail workers that are on strike as well, because workers in non unionised sectors are fair game, and have to pay for other peoples’ pay rises, even when the rail workers are well paid to begin with. And you’re the one calling out companies for dividing and conquering?

Er - most rail workers and all postal workers work for private companies.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Er - most rail workers and all postal workers work for private companies.

Only in a weird Tory dual reality world....... they love to talk about privatisation but also blame public sector workers as and when it suits them. I am waiting for when in desperation they claim anyone in receipt of a state pension is a public sector worker if it suits their warped views

 

[Phil1]

Do you feel comfortable that, because he politely declined to take a Christmas party booking, all union members across Bristol have been told to boycott his pub in both professional and personal capacities? Bully boy tactics if you ask me.

But the landlord is in his right to turn customers away because he doesn’t agree with their stance and not expect blowback? Nah. You keep your mouth shut and serve them their drinks as long as they’re not causing any trouble. You can pick and choose who to allow in your establishment in this game if you wish but you won’t be in business for long.

 

[Vic]

Do you feel comfortable that, because he politely declined to take a Christmas party booking, all union members across Bristol have been told to boycott his pub in both professional and personal capacities? Bully boy tactics if you ask me.

Landlords aren't obliged to serve anybody. Union members aren't obliged to use his pub (or ... sshhhh... the other one he runs in Bristol).

 

[Vic]

ASLEF have not struck on any of the RMT dates. Our dates were separate. Still not getting facts right.

Doesn't matter. In that case you'd be maximising pain by having train drivers stopping the job on one day and RMT members stopping the job the next.

 

[Brewster's millions]

@Brewster's millions if all these greedy bastards stopped doing overtime how do you think the rail service would be? Absolutely shite because there would be no **** to do the jobs, why do firefighters have second jobs? Because their pay is shit, no one wants to work on their days off, where do all the locom nurses come from? Burnt out nurses who know that working for the nhs isnt worth it! Are you getting the idea now why people have had enough? Or are you just a troll?

I’m not really sure what your argument is here, or whether there’s an argument at all and you’re just having a pop, which is fine I suppose.

Are you suggesting that train workers shouldn’t do overtime, or shouldn’t have to do overtime, or that I’m slagging them off for doing overtime? Lots of people do overtime in all sorts of sectors, often because they want to, or more likely because they need the money. Not sure what makes the rail sector a special case, and I’m not really into telling people how to their lives. I’ll leave that bit to you but I do know that rail workers are relatively well paid because I look at the data. I also know that the recent strike action will have caused people to lose earnings, whether they could afford it or not.

The data also show that 1.25 million people in the UK have two or more jobs, up by around 90k over the past year, which is a lot and I’m probably safe in assuming that most of these people - from all parts of the economy, public and private - are doing so out of necessity rather than preference.

I’m not dismissing pressures in the public sector or disputing the fact that nurses work hard. I’m simply highlighting that the majority of workers in the private sector are facing similar difficulties at the moment, are struggling to make ends meet, having to work extra hours and many won’t be receiving any pay increases at all. So your posts this morning, which suggested that private sector workers should pay for large pay increases in the public sector (and of course RMT and ASLEF union members), is overly simplistic in my view. Believe it or not, not everybody in the private sector goes to work in a pinstripe suit and a bowler hat, so you might want to think about how the pay rises are going to be funded.

 

[The blue phantom]

Does anyone know what the Strikers get paid while on Strike off the unions? I know there's a Hardship fund of some sort. I know it's not a lot and enough to cover expenses etc?

 

[Vic]

I retired last year on the proceeds of two DB final salary pension schemes - they remained that way for over a decade after Brown left office.

Not sure how two men deciding at a meeting in a restaurant before Labour was even elected the upshot of which was that Blair would be PM and Brown would be Chancellor, then PM when Blair stepped down, can be construed as one stabbing the other in the back.

Fixed - at least I think that's what you meant