Does any other blues bet on the rags?

[mike winterwasp]

SWPB - I am genuinely interested in how you bet to ensure you make money, particularly as you have said that you don't mind losing money if the scum also lose, but without the stakes and prices can't see how you did it. What bets did you put on yesterday?

I don't always make money. I had no need to back Utd and the draw yesterday and doing so cut my profit by £40 (2x £20 bets). What I mean is that I cover myself as the odds change to try and ensure that I still make a profit.

The reason I am still well up on Utd this season is that they have come back 5 times (that I have bet on) in the league in only 7 games I've bet on.

Last season I made a net loss doing the same but was happy to.

Edit: I back Utd at 11/2 and the draw at 19/10

Thanks, that makes sense. Word of warning though for anyone who is unfamiliar - betting live in play can be very dangerous - a goal or penalty just after you've lumped on means the market is suspended and the odds change drastically. It can work either way but don't get in above your head - if you can't afford to lose the lot, don't bother.

 

[SWP's back]

SWPB - I am genuinely interested in how you bet to ensure you make money, particularly as you have said that you don't mind losing money if the scum also lose, but without the stakes and prices can't see how you did it. What bets did you put on yesterday?

I don't always make money. I had no need to back Utd and the draw yesterday and doing so cut my profit by £40 (2x £20 bets). What I mean is that I cover myself as the odds change to try and ensure that I still make a profit.

The reason I am still well up on Utd this season is that they have come back 5 times (that I have bet on) in the league in only 7 games I've bet on.

Last season I made a net loss doing the same but was happy to.

Edit: I back Utd at 11/2 and the draw at 19/10

Thanks, that makes sense. Word of warning though for anyone who is unfamiliar - betting live in play can be very dangerous - a goal or penalty just after you've lumped on means the market is suspended and the odds change drastically. It can work either way but don't get in above your head - if you can't afford to lose the lot, don't bother.

I only bet very small mate and only ever on football usually. I don't particularly enjoy it to be honest but like last weekend, Utd won and I ended up with nearly £300 so instead of being moody, I took my Mrs out for a slap up meal, filled the fridge and freezer for the week and got brownie points (sex).

 

[mike winterwasp]

That scenario is very very very rare..

No it isn't. Happens virtually every weekend but not usually in major leagues. The difficulty is finding bookies who will allow you a decent chunk without limiting you later. You need to use the big Asian bookies, Pinnacle with one or two European bookies whose prices are slightly out of line. Easier with two outcomes but whether two or three you have to bet big to get relatively small (but guaranteed) profit.

Tell me a match from any league where this has happened this weekend then or the last month?
Post the link for the odds on here please,i'll have a look

Cheers.

As I said don't do a lot of football but feel free to check the following which I did

Rangers v Alloa 3.5 goals - over William Hill 2.1, under Dafabet 1.98

Last match I did

France v Sweden Home 1.65 Digibet, Draw 4.20 Panbet, Away 7.00 Marathonbet

 

[bernabias home shirt]

No it isn't. Happens virtually every weekend but not usually in major leagues. The difficulty is finding bookies who will allow you a decent chunk without limiting you later. You need to use the big Asian bookies, Pinnacle with one or two European bookies whose prices are slightly out of line. Easier with two outcomes but whether two or three you have to bet big to get relatively small (but guaranteed) profit.

Tell me a match from any league where this has happened this weekend then or the last month?
Post the link for the odds on here please,i'll have a look

Cheers.

As I said don't do a lot of football but feel free to check the following which I did

Rangers v Alloa 3.5 goals - over William Hill 2.1, under Dafabet 1.98

Last match I did

France v Sweden Home 1.65 Digibet, Draw 4.20 Panbet, Away 7.00 Marathonbet

I was more thinking our four divisions and on a result basis and with high street bookies

If your scouring away on every tinpot online bookmakers to try and make some money ..good luck

But come on mike even the under an over goals market on the rangers bet is it really worth it going off them odds(and i cant check to verify) you need a massive outlay to make anything

I remember my mate coming unstuck on this very thing,he had seen a flaw in the market and went about backing all the possible results
But every man and his dog was doing the same and the odds had changed by the time he had clicked to put his last cover bet on...
Other bookies are just laying with each other and the odds will be cut accordingly

 

[mike winterwasp]

Cookie

It's one of the ways of making guaranteed money. I said in my original post the outlay was large compared to the profit but people think nothing of leaving thousands in banks or building societies paying less than 1% pa. And yes it does involve hard work which is why I avoid football. I'm more than happy with the hourly rate.

I'm banned or limited at most high street bookies. The exchanges give far better value anyway and the big Asian bookies are far better than Fred, Laddies etc. Pinnacle is the best bookie in the world bar none. Have a look at their limits and you will see what is possible if you find the right price elsewhere. Let's take an example of 2.10 v 1.95 - not a huge discrepancy - it returns about £23 on a stake of £2076 or 1.1%. Granted £23 is nothing but you keep recycling your stake money and it adds up over time. It is not without risk - the odds can change as you are putting on the bet, you have got to understand the bookies' rules of the sport (they vary) or if the discrepancy is too wide you run the risk of the bookie voiding the bet but it is possible to make decent money.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Cookie

It's one of the ways of making guaranteed money. I said in my original post the outlay was large compared to the profit but people think nothing of leaving thousands in banks or building societies paying less than 1% pa. And yes it does involve hard work which is why I avoid football. I'm more than happy with the hourly rate.

I'm banned or limited at most high street bookies. The exchanges give far better value anyway and the big Asian bookies are far better than Fred, Laddies etc. Pinnacle is the best bookie in the world bar none. Have a look at their limits and you will see what is possible if you find the right price elsewhere. Let's take an example of 2.10 v 1.95 - not a huge discrepancy - it returns about £23 on a stake of £2076 or 1.1%. Granted £23 is nothing but you keep recycling your stake money and it adds up over time. It is not without risk - the odds can change as you are putting on the bet, you have got to understand the bookies' rules of the sport (they vary) or if the discrepancy is too wide you run the risk of the bookie voiding the bet but it is possible to make decent money.

Its very rare i go in a high street bookies now,if i do its for the banter and to see some old faces
I agree the exchanges is everything and i spend most my time on there near enough everyday
I can imagine your doing a lot of searching about for odds like that which is fair enough if you have the time and good luck
Thats what i was saying about the odds changing as you are covering bets,my mate was doing it and just gave up as he was getting frustrated
Have you noticed this a lot with void bets and price cuts?

 

[mike winterwasp]

If you know about the exchanges you'll know what trading, arbing and bagging entail as well as dutching. All make money but trading is not guaranteed. On dutching I mostly bet on US sports and within that mainly on handicaps where the odds remain at 1.95/1.91 and the "line" not the price moves. (there is a technique called betting on middles if you want to research it) It is rare for the odds to change but the nearer the start time the more likely that is. I am very cautious about large discrepancies and will sometimes turn down a bet rather than chance it. You can of course check with the traders (not customer services) but with some bookies even written confirmation from the traders is not enough - so stick with the very big boys.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

If you know about the exchanges you'll know what trading, arbing and bagging entail as well as dutching. All make money but trading is not guaranteed. On dutching I mostly bet on US sports and within that mainly on handicaps where the odds remain at 1.95/1.91 and the "line" not the price moves. (there is a technique called betting on middles if you want to research it) It is rare for the odds to change but the nearer the start time the more likely that is. I am very cautious about large discrepancies and will sometimes turn down a bet rather than chance it. You can of course check with the traders (not customer services) but with some bookies even written confirmation from the traders is not enough - so stick with the very big boys.

Yes ive heard of dutching and arbing its always been to time consuming for me.
I think route 46 (poster off here) uses this method and does pretty well at it.
Not betting on the middles though,and i'm going to have a nosey at this
I'll drop you a p.m if i'm struggling to follow it.
So you will probably get one :)

 

[mike winterwasp]

If you know about the exchanges you'll know what trading, arbing and bagging entail as well as dutching. All make money but trading is not guaranteed. On dutching I mostly bet on US sports and within that mainly on handicaps where the odds remain at 1.95/1.91 and the "line" not the price moves. (there is a technique called betting on middles if you want to research it) It is rare for the odds to change but the nearer the start time the more likely that is. I am very cautious about large discrepancies and will sometimes turn down a bet rather than chance it. You can of course check with the traders (not customer services) but with some bookies even written confirmation from the traders is not enough - so stick with the very big boys.

Yes ive heard of dutching and arbing its always been to time consuming for me.
I think route 46 (poster off here) uses this method and does pretty well at it.
Not betting on the middles though,and i'm going to have a nosey at this
I'll drop you a p.m if i'm struggling to follow it.
So you will probably get one :)

No problem. Happy to help if I can.

 

[spam1967]

Did any of the glory hunters back the rags to come back tonight! Especially after losing doe at Norwich.lol