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Dominic Raab
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bluebrother55
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Thank you Dominic Raab. We are not on our knees ........yet.
bluebrother55
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Tony Benn ? That's the guy who closed more coal pits than Thatcher but it was ok because he was a socialist with a pipe in his mouth and a smile on his face.
ganganvince
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Others may be wishing they followed this line.Thank you Dominic Raab. We are not on our knees ........yet.
Rascal
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A rather simplistic answer that, no context to it.Tony Benn ? That's the guy who closed more coal pits than Thatcher but it was ok because he was a socialist with a pipe in his mouth and a smile on his face.
Since WW2 the Tories shut far more mines than Labour. After WW2 Labour nationalised the Coal industry as it was seen as vital for our energy needs. They inherited an industry that had suffered woeful underinvestment and duly invested in the industry. When the Tories came back to power they scrapped the labour plan to make the mines cost effective and left them in such disrepair there was no choice but to close them and consolidate the industry. Thatcher closed mines out of spite, she hated the Unions and thought that by beating the NUM she could bring down Union power. Other factors came into play of course such as the advent of nuclear power and oil fired power stations lessening the need for coal and in todays world coal is no longer a viable energy source because of environmental concerns.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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A rather simplistic answer that, no context to it.
Since WW2 the Tories shut far more mines than Labour. After WW2 Labour nationalised the Coal industry as it was seen as vital for our energy needs. They inherited an industry that had suffered woeful underinvestment and duly invested in the industry. When the Tories came back to power they scrapped the labour plan to make the mines cost effective and left them in such disrepair there was no choice but to close them and consolidate the industry. Thatcher closed mines out of spite, she hated the Unions and thought that by beating the NUM she could bring down Union power. Other factors came into play of course such as the advent of nuclear power and oil fired power stations lessening the need for coal and in todays world coal is no longer a viable energy source because of environmental concerns.
One of the greatest mistakes made was not preserving the mines for the future. Whilst it is correct that coal is environmentally nasty , we are now in a position where we are reliant on foreign countries for our power. Gas from Russia and Norway for example ... even our nuclear power stations are funded (by the Chinese) and run by overseas companies. God help us if there was ever another global conflict.
Shortly after the pits were closed we ended up importing coal from Poland and even Australia.
bluethrunthru
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Rather like with the jet fighter, the Comet jet airliner, Concord and the Harrier jump jet the yanks will take one look at the skin stretched tight over the cranium and the mad staring eyes and worry that once again we have stolen a march on them. Our cyborg technology is way ahead of theirs as they can see. V2.0 is a quantum leap on V1.0 that was Mayday with its jerky movement when trying to dance and that weird malfunctioning mouth movements.
We are still struggling to make one look empathetic though.
We are still struggling to make one look empathetic though.