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Ban-jani said:
If you want to look at a leader of a superpower now with comparisons to Hitler in the 30’s, then look no further than Mr Putin.
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And much like Hitler's early years before he overreached, Putin has done very well by Russia, so he's not going to disappear into the sunset. The big problem is that the policy of appeasement will keep going these days, nobody has the bollocks to stand up to him bar Merkel, who doesn't have the support of the rest of the EU and Erdogan, who's a ****. He's invaded 2 countries and only met token resistance in 1.
 
Ban-jani said:
Why didn’t you quote me?

That’s not evidence of white supremacy, he thinks he’s got good genes.. so what?
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German blood?
Some people aren't successful because of their genes?

Sounds exactly like the definition of white supremacy.

Oh, and he also refused to disavow the KKK when asked then said some of the Charlottesville nazis were fine people.

So if you need to actually say "I'm a white supremacist" to be considered one I guess you're right. I tend to think you are if you support other white supremacists, appoint people who work to disenfranchise minorities, and roll back things like affirmative action.

Also, trying to ban people from entering the country if they're Muslims is another pretty good sign.

I could (and have) gone on about this and you don't seem to understand.
 
Ban-jani said:
Why didn’t you quote me?

That’s not evidence of white supremacy, he thinks he’s got good genes.. so what?
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Oh and I just found out that Hitler wasn't an anti-Semite because he gave special protection to a Jewish doctor (Eduard Bloch). So he's just misunderstood like Dumb Donald is since he has associated with some black people.
 
buckshot said:
Oh and I just found out that Hitler wasn't an anti-Semite because he gave special protection to a Jewish doctor (Eduard Bloch). So he's just misunderstood like Dumb Donald is since he has associated with some black people.
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Your arguments are weak on this, all you’re proving is that he’s racist and he thinks he’s got good genes.

Nowhere at all did he bring race into those clips on his genes, you’ve just presumed he means it’s a white and black thing, which says a lot more about you trying to fit it into your argument, when it doesn’t really go.

Why have you highlighted the German bit? Do you think everything German is Nazism or something? Shouldn’t one be happy with German ancestry? To me it just says he’s proud of it because they’re known for their industry and he thinks of himself as industrious.

The comments on Charlottesville were very bad I agree and didn’t help the situation whatsoever but again it doesn’t make him one too, he also said there were good people and bad on both sides, for your argument to be consistent that also makes him an anti-fascist.

And the post I’ve quoted here is just laughable, why are you bringing it back to Hitler all the time? It’s weird.

To compare Hitler letting off one Jewish doctor, when he murdered 6 million other Jews, to all the allies and associates Trump has who are minorities, when he hasn’t killed anyone, is embarrassing. Hitler was talking about solving the Jewish problem and wrote a book on it from a jail cell. Being a bit of a xenophobic and pandering to rednecks is very bad but not close to the catastrophic views coming out of Germany in the 30’s.

Also Trump banned people coming from Muslim majority war zones where extremism had been high, at least that’s what they tried. I completely disagreed with the stance and thought it was disgraceful to turn away/detain refugees but there were a lot more Muslims with access to the United States than those not at the time, by a great deal.

White Supremacy is a whole other ball game to general racism, Trump falls into the latter in my opinion and not the former.

I called you out on overstepping what he actually is, that’s a moron who’s racist and you’ve tried to bend every flimsy argument to fit your mistake but it hasn’t worked.

White supremacy is creating a white nation, with only white people and in the interest of white people, whilst removing minorities to elsewhere or worse. When you listen to white supremacists they cannot wait to start a race war, they want death and destruction and a chance to kill non-whites.

Whilst Trump has been xenophobic and racist, the evidence to suggest he’s a white supremacist isn’t strong enough.

Do you actually believe he wants the above?
 
Ban-jani said:
Your arguments are weak on this, all you’re proving is that he’s racist and he thinks he’s got good genes.

Nowhere at all did he bring race into those clips on his genes, you’ve just presumed he means it’s a white and black thing, which says a lot more about you trying to fit it into your argument, when it doesn’t really go.

Why have you highlighted the German bit? Do you think everything German is Nazism or something? Shouldn’t one be happy with German ancestry? To me it just says he’s proud of it because they’re known for their industry and he thinks of himself as industrious.

The comments on Charlottesville were very bad I agree and didn’t help the situation whatsoever but again it doesn’t make him one too, he also said there were good people and bad on both sides, for your argument to be consistent that also makes him an anti-fascist.

And the post I’ve quoted here is just laughable, why are you bringing it back to Hitler all the time? It’s weird.

To compare Hitler letting off one Jewish doctor, when he murdered 6 million other Jews, to all the allies and associates Trump has who are minorities, when he hasn’t killed anyone, is embarrassing. Hitler was talking about solving the Jewish problem and wrote a book on it from a jail cell. Being a bit of a xenophobic and pandering to rednecks is very bad but not close to the catastrophic views coming out of Germany in the 30’s.

Also Trump banned people coming from Muslim majority war zones where extremism had been high, at least that’s what they tried. I completely disagreed with the stance and thought it was disgraceful to turn away/detain refugees but there were a lot more Muslims with access to the United States than those not at the time, by a great deal.

White Supremacy is a whole other ball game to general racism, Trump falls into the latter in my opinion and not the former.

I called you out on overstepping what he actually is, that’s a moron who’s racist and you’ve tried to bend every flimsy argument to fit your mistake but it hasn’t worked.

White supremacy is creating a white nation, with only white people and in the interest of white people, whilst removing minorities to elsewhere or worse. When you listen to white supremacists they cannot wait to start a race war, they want death and destruction and a chance to kill non-whites.

Whilst Trump has been xenophobic and racist, the evidence to suggest he’s a white supremacist isn’t strong enough.

Do you actually believe he wants the above?
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Seems a bit of a pointless discussion. You’ve agreed he’s a racist and xenophobe. What this seems to be about is the definition of a white supremacist. If you believe it means a someone who wants to kill or deport anyone who isn’t white then you’re right but if it means that he favours white people over non-whites, there’s ample evidence that he falls into this category. Remember his musings when he asked why can’t they get immigrants from Norway and his over-reaction when black footballers protest.
 
aguero93:20 said:
And much like Hitler's early years before he overreached, Putin has done very well by Russia, so he's not going to disappear into the sunset. The big problem is that the policy of appeasement will keep going these days, nobody has the bollocks to stand up to him bar Merkel, who doesn't have the support of the rest of the EU and Erdogan, who's a ****. He's invaded 2 countries and only met token resistance in 1.
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Watched the documentary on Putin's Russia, and my first thoughts were that the comparison with Nazi Germany in the thirties are worrying. Doctrine of the youth's education. controlling the media, arresting people with opposition views, Nationalistic propaganda. We should be calling this out as it is, and be doing more to educate the Russian public.
 
Ban-jani said:
No it isn’t.

I don’t like the man, I’m just trying to be reasonable when actually criticising him.
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Reason enough?
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