Donald Trump

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KSA, Qatar, Egypt & the UAE amongst others

They weren't on the State Department list. Ask the Obama administration why.

He ran a campaign on being anti-immigration. Let's look at some of his policies and proposed policies:

He ran a campaign on controlling immigration. Wanting to have barriers to immigrarion isn't anti-immigration.

And more pointedly, you went from "he hates immigrants" to "he proposed some policies that will lessen unwanted immigration".

There's a massive chasm between those two things. They're not even remotely similar.
 
He ran a campaign on controlling immigration. Wanting to have barriers to immigrarion isn't anti-immigration.

And more pointedly, you went from "he hates immigrants" to "he proposed some policies that will lessen unwanted immigration".

There's a massive chasm between those two things. They're not even remotely similar.

No I didn’t. They are your words. Your straw man. I wrote this:

what has Trump ever done to suggest he’s remotely in favour of immigration of any kind?

What I haven't done is implement laws that make things harder for the victims of rape whereas Trump has implemented policy that makes things harder for immigrants and out right bans them from certain countries on a false premise.

So I don’t know whether you’ve banged your head or similar but don’t try and put words into my mouth. I’m not some intellectually feeble idiot that forgets what has been said in the conversation.

I’ll sit back and await you coming back and saying “actually you’re right sweep, you’ve maintained the point all along, apologies”
 
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Because the WAY that you're doing it is wrong. I'm not saying don't use your own opinion of the man, I'm saying don't make it your starting point.

It's like Hitler. Hitler said loads of agreeable things that most people in the world would agree with. But if you dismiss literally everything he ever said or did because Hitler said it then you're not considering things properly.

You should be looking at a policy, looking at the statements and justifications about it in good faith, looking at the counter argument in good faith then deciding where you land. THEN add in your opinion of the personalities involved and their truth factor.

When you start with the personalities then you firstly lose access to around half of the ideas in society, and secondly your starting point shapes the end result.

That's not critical thinking.

Trump: "4 plus 3 equals giraffe."

Me: "That's not true."

Trump: "I've eaten more chimichangas than any man in history."

Me: "Um, that might be true, but it probably isn't, and so what if it is?"

Trump: "I promise I will repay that loan."

Me: "Well, you didn't repay the last four, so I'm not sure I believe you."

Trump: "Arrrrgggggghhhhhhh googledy goolgly goo hairball whiplash menstruation ahhhhhhh fuddy duddy cofeve!!!"

Me: "Errrrrrrr . . . ok, yeah. I think maybe I won't vote for you for President, mate."

Damocles: "You are intellectually inferior. You're using your pre-conceived notion of the man to judge him."
 
Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA tests and Dumb Donald is saying he never agreed to pay $1 million to charity if it turns out she's Native American. First he makes racist comments about her for laughs, then he brags about how she'll never take a DNA test and when she does he lies about it. He's a complete fraud and a coward.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-1-million-for-warren-dna-test-even-though-he
 
Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA tests and Dumb Donald is saying he never agreed to pay $1 million to charity if it turns out she's Native American. First he makes racist comments about her for laughs, then he brags about how she'll never take a DNA test and when she does he lies about it. He's a complete fraud and a coward.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-1-million-for-warren-dna-test-even-though-he

We must ignore such things as these as irrelevant to our viewpoint and must not allow them to cloud our perspectives in case he comes up later with a policy that is good.

Things such as this in no way should inform one's opinion of the man nor the political narrative.

Thus spaketh Damocles.
 
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Irrelevant. We must ignore such things as these as irrelevant to our viewpoint and must not allow them to cloud our perspectives in case he comes up later with a policy that is good. Things such as this are irrelevant to the narrative.

Thus spaketh Damocles.
Can we stick to the debate please and not attack single posters?
 
Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA tests and Dumb Donald is saying he never agreed to pay $1 million to charity if it turns out she's Native American. First he makes racist comments about her for laughs, then he brags about how she'll never take a DNA test and when she does he lies about it. He's a complete fraud and a coward.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-1-million-for-warren-dna-test-even-though-he
Where are his fan boys to say he never said that?
 
Can we stick to the debate please and not attack single posters?
You can do whatever the fuck you want and posters that are admittedly trolling the thread will be mocked.

When you pass mod probation and get your full deputy mod batch then you’ll be able to delete posts. Until then...
 
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