Donald Trump

[super_city_si]

Incredible this man is in power when the planet is racing such a potentially overwhelming crisis.

The whole thing is incredible, really. His election, the way he conducts himself, that some people still support him.

I wouldn’t be remotely shocked to find the whole thing is a wind-up.

It’s like they’ve taken the Brendan Rogers experiment to a whole new level.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Reading this thread i would be shocked to find out he has done anything possitive for the American people ;-)

I can't think of anything he has been directly responsible for that has benefited people. He probably has, but I just can't think of anything off hand.

I hear profits on golf buggy rental at Mar a Lago is up, so that's positive...... Wait, he owns that place.

 

[TCIB]

I can't think of anything he has been directly responsible for that has benefited people. He probably has, but I just can't think of anything off hand.

I hear profits on golf buggy rental at Mar a Lago is up, so that's positive...... Wait, he owns that place.

I would suggest that is down to the individual and their level of objectivity.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It’s like they’ve taken the Brendan Rogers experiment to a whole new level.

Both ridiculous characters tbf.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Aaaaaaannnnnnnndddddd . . . Of COURSE.

Trump blames the Obama administration for his OWN administration’s handling of the Coronavirus.

https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Criticized-for-Coronavirus-Response-Trump-Points-15105797.php

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I would suggest that is down to the individual and their level of objectivity.

I agree.

It's just very hard to be objective about such a disgusting human being in the position of the so-called leader of the free world.

You can type 'Trump achievements' in to google, or any other search engine, and you will get a whole list of things like Space Force, more Conservative judges, Al Bagdaddi killing, Natural gas exports, trade deals, N.Korea summit, etc. But really, aside from vanity projects, he's not achieved an awful lot. In fact, he's set the USA back in a number of areas, certainly in international relations.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

What happened to Trump's deal?

 

[TCIB]

He was voted in to strengthem the American economy though, primarily, which he seems to have done. Number of people in work is up, business investment is up etc. If the economy was struggling with high unemployment i think most would be concerned. His often silly tweets and gaffs will simply be overlooked as they don't affect the average persons daily life in a negative manor. They will notice their kids having work opportunities and appreciate that though. I think these issues related to the economy will be first and foremost in swinging voters minds when it comes to the crunch.

You can not underestimate the religious vote either, he gave the Christian church power so the bible states will, i imagine, be rather pro Trump to. Though they may vote red come what may, its a lot of voters though is that.

I dont get the sense that the swinging vote have had enough of him either really.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

He was voted in to strengthem the American economy though, primarily, which he seems to have done. Number of people in work is up, business investment is up etc. If the economy was struggling with high unemployment i think most would be concerned. His often silly tweets and gaffs will simply be overlooked as they don't affect the average persons daily life in a negative manor. They will notice their kids having work opportunities and appreciate that though. I think these issues related to the economy will be first and foremost in swinging voters minds when it comes to the crunch.

You can not underestimate the religious vote either, he gave the Christian church power so the bible states will, i imagine, be rather pro Trump to. Though they may vote red come what may, its a lot of voters though is that.

I dont get the sense that the swinging vote have had enough of him either really.

Strange how Trump will happily blame Obama for the lack of Coronavirus testing, but he won't give him any credit for creating firm foundations for economic growth.

 

[SebastianBlue]

He was voted in to strengthem the American economy though, primarily, which he seems to have done. Number of people in work is up, business investment is up etc. If the economy was struggling with high unemployment i think most would be concerned. His often silly tweets and gaffs will simply be overlooked as they don't affect the average persons daily life in a negative manor. They will notice their kids having work opportunities and appreciate that though. I think these issues related to the economy will be first and foremost in swinging voters minds when it comes to the crunch.

You can not underestimate the religious vote either, he gave the Christian church power so the bible states will, i imagine, be rather pro Trump to. Though they may vote red come what may, its a lot of voters though is that.

I dont get the sense that the swinging vote have had enough of him either really.

He has merely ridden the economic upturn wave that was swelling under Obama, due to many of the early policies that admin enacted — very little apart from the stock market performance (the market is not the economy) since his election (as that is largely down to the response to his deregulating everything in sight and passing disastrous wealth distribution reform, aka tax reform) is really due to anything he has done. And there is quite a bit of evidence that his weight has actually kept the height of that wave from rising via serious policy missteps and the various trade wars he has started. That’s not even mentioning his deference to special interest and industry groups, which extend to appointing industry leaders to the top government regulatory roles (akin to appointing COVID-19 to manage the response to the pandemic), which has further compounded corporate control of government fiscal policy and weakened labour rights and influence.

And nearly everything he has done to date has created significant mid- to long-term fiscal issues for the US, including being even *more* poorly placed to respond to the inevitable economic downturn coming.

Nearly all of the credit he receives for the economy is misplaced, if not dangerously so, as it is based on a truly maddening misunderstanding of both current and future economic conditions and the short-term influence of the executive admin on the economy. Many Americans see the stock market as being the economy (which, again, cannot be further from the truth) and ignore completely all other factors and nuances (like the low simple unemployment rate being exceedingly misleading as a indicator for actual overall economic health), which is why Trump is putting market performance over public health with his COVID-19 outbreak response. He knows that if it continues to degrade, he will be held responsible, so everything else is not important — just keep the markets from crashing before the election, even if it ultimately leads to horrific economic outcomes after the election and/or horrible public health outcomes before.