Donald Trump

[Bigga]

Well not Joe Biden

I think history will beg to differ about that pathway.

 

[BigOscar]

How did he get there?

You mean apart from the proven widespread voter suppression, gerrymandering, election fraud and collaboration with foreign powers?

We know how he got here, 40 years of republicans stacking the deck so that money decides elections, not voters, Fox News pumping out propaganda to take advantage of uneducated voters who don't realise the reason they're poor and uneducated is because the Republican party keeps them that way.

Christ, the way you talk you'd think Trump won the election with a landslide.

He lost the popular vote by a landslide and that's despite committing dozens of crimes along the way.

Yup, not to mention the number one reason he got elected. Racists being annoyed at having a black man rule over them for 8 years. Fuck all to do with policies, neolibs or any other such bollocks, just the inevitable knuckle dragging pushback when progress happens. To declare the problem was that they weren't progressive enough is beyond stupid.

 

[pudge]

I think history will beg to differ about that pathway.

So it's Biden's fault that Mitch McConnell denied his and Obama administrations judicial appointments but consistently fast track Trump's?

 

[BigOscar]

So it's Biden's fault that Mitch McConnell denied his and Obama administrations judicial appointments but consistently fast track Trump's?

Yes because neolibs, or something

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Whilst I get this, this man's presidency wasn't created in a vacuum. It's been years of working class and BAME being lied to and being told 'incremental changes' is the thing. This gen is done waiting, looking at the gen before suffering. People sought hope, were promised it and have been let down.

What #45 is doing is what it is now, but the Dem party wash their hands off it and claim no blame. That's bullshit.

They created the monster they refuse to claim. They gave away control with poor policies and the monster rages, creating wanton havoc.

I don't understand why people don't see this.

So far off the mark.

Despite being blighted by Senate Republicans in his second term Obama still managed to create the bedrock of a solid economic platform to build on. It it hadn't been for this then this Trump term would have been 10x the sh*t show it is now.

That said, the reforms that Obama could have brought in were blocked on 'principle by McConnel in the Senate. What should have been a productive second term essentially boiled down to GOP cock-waving at every opportunity.

 

[Bigga]

So it's Biden's fault that Mitch McConnell denied his and Obama administrations judicial appointments but consistently fast track Trump's?

Look way before that.

Even in that situation Obama and crew tried to play nice when they didn't have to.

Hands across the aisle nonsense.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

So explain why a Democratic isn't president right now? And don't give me your voting system bollocks as that's only a partial answer.

Gerrymandering, GOP Super PAC's, and the Electoral College would all be legitimate reasons under normal circumstances.

For 2016 you can add dirty tricks and outside intervention to that list.

You could put some blame on Hilary and the Dem's for their complacency, but it the grand scheme of things it didn't make an awful lot of difference.

 

[Bigga]

So far off the mark.

Despite being blighted by Senate Republicans in his second term Obama still managed to create the bedrock of a solid economic platform to build on. It it hadn't been for this then this Trump term would have been 10x the sh*t show it is now.

That said, the reforms that Obama could have brought in were blocked on 'principle by McConnel in the Senate. What should have been a productive second term essentially boiled down to GOP cock-waving at every opportunity.

Always the second term, eh?

And did the Dem party come into existence in 2008? There are multiple policies and actions that created the pathway for this presidency otherwise the Dems would still be in charge, wouldn't they?

Oh wait, gerrymandering...

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Look way before that.

Even in that situation Obama and crew tried to play nice when they didn't have to.

Hands across the aisle nonsense.

Classic Democrat's eh?

Attempting to do the best by the electorate; serving everyone instead of the GOP just looking out for themselves or their mates.

 

[Bigga]

Gerrymandering, GOP Super PAC's, and the Electoral College would all be legitimate reasons under normal circumstances.

For 2016 you can add dirty tricks and outside intervention to that list.

You could put some blame on Hilary and the Dem's for their complacency, but it the grand scheme of things it didn't make an awful lot of difference.

LOL!!

I didn't see your additional post, but knew what it would involve!

Dems had their own super PAC system in 2016 and this super delegate nonsense as well as dirty tricks of their own when Sanders ran in 2016 AND 2020!

It's all wrong until the Dems say it's right.