Donald Trump

[I'm With Stupid]

Especially when they could be protesting against any number of regimes with real track records in being cunts!

Like who? Piers Morgan embarrassed himself (when doesn't he?) the other day by saying "Where were these people when the Saudi regime were given a state visit?" Unfortunately for him, the guest he had on his sofa was the person who organised exactly the same protests against the Saudi state visit too. China was protested. Israel is regularly protested.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Which debate was this? I watched all 3 of the general election debates, and have listened to them several times since, and I struggle to think of any where Trump was 'hammered'.

All three of them ffs, but I think the one I'm talking about was the second one. Come off it, he didn't have a clue about any of the issues facing America and still doesn't. His performance was embarrassing in every single one of them, just as his first two weeks in power have been embarrassing. I haven't seen someone so clearly out of his depth since John Barnes was a football manager.

 

[@BluePhil8]

All three of them ffs, but I think the one I'm talking about was the second one. Come off it, he didn't have a clue about any of the issues facing America and still doesn't. His performance was embarrassing in every single one of them, just as his first two weeks in power have been embarrassing. I haven't seen someone so clearly out of his depth since John Barnes was a football manager.

You must be joking.

And the second debate was Trump's strongest. Aside from promising that his attorney general would look at Hillary Clinton's emails and joking that she would be jailed under his administration (which was wildly cheered by the crowd by the way).

That was the debate where he managed to pivot away from the Pussygate saga, no matter how hard the debate hosts tried to keep bringing it up.

Hillary could barely stand up for 3 minutes without sitting down, had that stupid creepy smile on her face and kept banging on about hillaryclinton.com. When she said that her 'deleting 33,000 emails was a lie' the crowd actually booed her. Maybe you watched a special BBC/CNN redacted edition which didn't show any of this.

But it was nice to see Trump lay the smack down on Bill Clinton in front of an international audience.

 

[@BluePhil8]

One of my favourite John Podesta leaks:

(Don't worry, despite CNN's claim it isn't actually illegal to look at Wikileaks)

 

[I'm With Stupid]

You must be joking.

And the second debate was Trump's strongest. Aside from promising that his attorney general would look at Hillary Clinton's emails and joking that she would be jailed under his administration (which was wildly cheered by the crowd by the way).

That was the debate where he managed to pivot away from the Pussygate saga, no matter how hard the debate hosts tried to keep bringing it up.

Hillary could barely stand up for 3 minutes without sitting down, had that stupid creepy smile on her face and kept banging on about hillaryclinton.com. When she said that her 'deleting 33,000 emails was a lie' the crowd actually booed her. Maybe you watched a special BBC/CNN redacted edition which didn't show any of this.

But it was nice to see Trump lay the smack down on Bill Clinton in front of an international audience.

I watched it live. It was like watching a middle school student who'd won a competition to take part in the debate. In the second debate he looked desperate. And what was that creepy sex pest act he did? I think sitting on a chair while your opponent's speaking is far preferable. He acted like a petulant child, claiming the moderators of being biased against him, and was forced into a humiliating faux apology. His attempts to goad Hillary into reacting to his Bill Clinton sexual assault accusations failed completely and gave her the opportunity to take the moral high ground. How could you possible characterise that debate as anything other than an obvious defeat? Even the Republican commentators they had on the news after the debate couldn't claim that he'd performed well. I'm pretty sure even Donald Trump himself knew that he'd fucked it up, hence why he was all over Twitter straight away trying to deflect attention from it.

 

[@BluePhil8]

I watched it live. It was like watching a middle school student who'd won a competition to take part in the debate. In the second debate he looked desperate. And what was that creepy sex pest act he did? I think sitting on a chair while your opponent's speaking is far preferable. He acted like a petulant child, claiming the moderators of being biased against him, and was forced into a humiliating faux apology. His attempts to goad Hillary into reacting to his Bill Clinton sexual assault accusations failed completely and gave her the opportunity to take the moral high ground. How could you possible characterise that debate as anything other than an obvious defeat? Even the Republican commentators they had on the news after the debate couldn't claim that he'd performed well. I'm pretty sure even Donald Trump himself knew that he'd fucked it up, hence why he was all over Twitter straight away trying to deflect attention from it.

I think you should watch it again. All three are on YouTube in their entirety.

Just to clarify as someone who has listened to it multiple times. The moderators were Anderson Cooper (CNN) and Martha Raddatz (ABC, cried on TV when Trump won the election). They asked multiple loaded questions regarding pussygate, interrupted Trump midway through his answers several times, only asked one question regarding Hillary's emails which wasn't a leading question at all and when she deflected they moved on straight away. When the crowd cheered Trump on multiple occasions Cooper told them they could not make a sound. Hillary was applauded once throughout the debate and they didn't tell the crowd to be quiet. Also Hillary ran over her time limit several times, sometimes by significant periods, and they let her go on uninterrupted. This isn't even open to interpretation.

The third debate had the fairest moderation by far.

Sex pest act? Ah yes, standing up for an hour and looking at your opponent. What a sick Jimmy Savile mother fucker. How dare he be able to stand up for 5 minutes without having a seizure and being bundled away.

It always makes me laugh how people just repeat headlines.

In the third debate, and I'm paraphrasing here, the moderator said to her: 'Bill Clinton recently described Obamacare as a total disaster, was your husband wrong and what is your health care plan for the country' and her awnser was literally 'we are going to keep the good and get rid of the bad'. But that stands up to everyone's scrutiny of course. Maybe it would help if every response didn't sound like a rehearsal, but then we all know she did like to have the questions in advance so the awnsers probably were rehearsed.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sex pest act? Ah yes, standing up for an hour and looking at your opponent. What a sick Jimmy Savile mother fucker. How dare he be able to stand up for 5 minutes without having a seizure and being bundled away.

Even you've got to admit: he looks more than a little bit rapey.

 

[mcfc1632]

Well hr could be more objective by avoiding misrepresenting the facts. San Bernadino is cited by him as a terrorist attack carried out by someone who originated from one of the 7 nations on the banned list, the attacker was a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent.

Think that you are choosing to hear what you want to hear there.

Heard him mention the terrorism in Bowling Kentucky - which involved Iraqi terrorists portrayed as refugees. Re the San Bernadino incident that is indeed an excellent case to use to address what seemed to be ill-thought through UK political opportunism from the guy so badly struggling to deflect from the fact that he was just mouthing off with faux outrage for UK political gain. I say this because:

a) He did not cite as you suggest: "....cited by him as a terrorist attack carried out by someone who originated from one of the 7 nations on the banned list"

b) He, Neil, was discussing the issue of addressing perceived or known failings in US Visa / vetting procedures and in this context he mentioned one of the San Bernadino perpetrators having "...come from out of the country..". This seems entirely appropriate when placed into the correct context - especially as

c) Those checks that Neil was discussing failed to spot that the perpetrator you likely refer to from Pakistan had stated online her support for Jihadist attacks and her wish to be part of it.....

I am not supporting either Trump or this Executive order, but it is best to have a discussion based on accurate facts

 

[arfurclue]

Coke's superbowl commercial. Probably doesn't fit in with the trump tin pot dictatorship and bannon white supremacist views of what would make America 'great' - but (and it seems strange to say this, seeing as it involves the 'corporate coke') it is reminder that, beyond the surface of what appears to being on now, america and many of its people has a beautiful soul

 

[west didsblue]

Just seen this which I reckon sums up what many Americans think:

"Mike Pence is an abhorrent bigot of middling intellect & I'd be extremely grateful to have him take over the Presidency as soon as possible"