Donald Trump

[SWP's back]

What a weird world we live in when people actual use an abbreviation of anti-fascists as an insult. I'm sure there are some militant left wing nutters who are utter bellends, but could people really not come up with a better term for them than that? By labelling them that it kind of implies that being an anti-fascist is a bad thing? (But I guess that's the point)

It’s only like when people moan about “do gooders” as if wanting to ‘do good’ is a bad thing. Weird.

 

[SWP's back]

I see there's still people making excuses for Trump and making out it could be worse. After today's tweets from the dotard, anyone who can't wholeheartedly condemn him for the **** that he is are absolute cunts themselves.

You’re not wrong.

 

[BigOscar]

It’s only like when people moan about “do gooders” as if wanting to ‘do good’ is a bad thing. Weird.

Spot on, that is one of the weirdest insults for sure. Reminds me of when Joey Barton came out and said the only reason Gareth Barry was in the England team ahead of him was because he just did what the manager said, as if that was somehow a bad thing

 

[Bigga]

It was one of the various reasons people gave for voting for him. Virtue signalling celebrities and PC thugs calling the shots. Another reason was the rustbelts feeling that they'd been abandoned. Another was the corruption of Clinton. Some people had the same view as George Galloway, that the Democrats seemed hell bent on war with Russia.
From all the programmes I've seen where people have stated their reasons for voting for him, you can't just insist that they're all liars and are white supremacists.

Disillusionment is true and accurate and people wanted change ("Not all Republicans are Nazis"), but to conflate this argument with people that the Anti-Facist groups and Black Lives Matter movement are fighting against ("But all Nazis are Republican") is fooking crazy.

Presumably, you're of sound mind and know this.

 

[Machiavelli]

Exactly. On one side you have people who hate minorities, gays, and women while on the other side you have people who want to give everybody access to healthcare and a decent education. They’re EXACTLY the same.

I wasn't referring to what is going on in the US. I was speaking generally about left vs right, my dad is better than your dad bollocks.

 

[neil316]

Divide it maybe, but he's not alienating a large chunk.

Dividing is worse than alienating everyone.

That's true but he is doing more harm than good

 

[SWP's back]

my dad is better than your dad

Is he fuck.

 

[2sheikhs]

Disillusionment is true and accurate and people wanted change ("Not all Republicans are Nazis"), but to conflate this argument with people that the Anti-Facist groups and Black Lives Matter movement are fighting against ("But all Nazis are Republican") is fooking crazy.

Presumably, you're of sound mind and know this.

I'm not sure what it is you're getting upset about. Is it the reasons people gave in voting for trump or that I've posted the reasons people gave in voting for him?
There's idiots on the left and the right.
These people who turn up at demonstrations wearing a hoodie, ski goggles and a scarf covering their face are there to commit crimes. To say that because they're in a group that claims to oppose fascism must mean that they're good people is at best, naive.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

I'm not sure what it is you're getting upset about. Is it the reasons people gave in voting for trump or that I've posted the reasons people gave in voting for him?
There's idiots on the left and the right.
These people who turn up at demonstrations wearing a hoodie, ski goggles and a scarf covering their face are there to commit crimes. To say that because they're in a group that claims to oppose fascism must mean that they're good people is at best, naive.

The people with inbred lefty ideology would never ever admit there could be nutters on their side of the fence mate.

 

[Bigga]

I'm not sure what it is you're getting upset about. Is it the reasons people gave in voting for trump or that I've posted the reasons people gave in voting for him?
There's idiots on the left and the right.
These people who turn up at demonstrations wearing a hoodie, ski goggles and a scarf covering their face are there to commit crimes. To say that because they're in a group that claims to oppose fascism must mean that they're good people is at best, naive.

What I'm getting upset about?? I'm sorry, did I write anything in capitals? Is this your bullsh*t way of trying to get a rise out of someone who picks apart your 'argument'?? What I said was laid out, plain and simple and you can't even address it. I agreed with the legitimate reasons people voted, but you mix two different problems.

Maybe it's you that's upset...???

Of course there are clowns on both sides. I've told anti-facists who rocked up against the EDL that they make things worse by covering their faces and to be proud of your reasoning to demonstrate. Sure, you got me, I'm upset...

Let me ask you, what makes your life any more worth than mine? What rights do you have that I shouldn't have? what dignities should you be afforded over me...??