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That well known corporate fat-cat Bernie Sanders paid a princely 13% tax rate on income of well over $200k in his disclosed tax returns.
Did you make that figure up or did you rely on a website to do it for you?

“Some key details from Sanders’ tax returns include:

  • In 2018, Sanders’ adjusted gross income was $561,293. He paid a 26 percent effective tax rate on that adjusted gross income. In 2016 and 2017, when Sanders also earned significant income from his books, his effective tax rate was 35 percent and 30 percent, respectively. Their itemized deductions primarily consisted of mortgage interest, property taxes and charitable deductions.
Check his official tax return for yourself here:

 
He up-values his assets for bank loans and down-values them for his tax returns. That’s tax evasion, insurance fraud and bank fraud and it is indeed very illegal and that’s why Trump has tried to go SCOTUS (and lost) to halt his tax returns being subpoenaed by SDNY. But you knew that.


And it’s not exactly a secret that only I know about:



But aside from that, if you’d actually read the NYT piece you’d have read some interesting little excerpts:

The $72.9 million refund has since become the subject of a long-running battle with the I.R.S.

When applying for the refund, he cited a giant financial loss that may be related to the failure of his Atlantic City casinos. Publicly, he also claimed that he had fully surrendered his stake in the casinos.

But the real story may be
different from the one he told. Federal law holds that investors can claim a total loss on an investment, as Mr. Trump did, only if they receive nothing in return. Mr. Trump did appear to receive something in return: 5 percent of the new casino company that formed when he renounced his stake.

In 2011, the I.R.S. began an audit reviewing the legitimacy of the refund. Almost a decade later, the case remains unresolved, for unknown reasons, and could ultimately end up in federal court, where it could become a matter of public record.”


You still sure he hasn’t done anything illegal?

And even if you leave the illegality out of the equation, we’re still looking at THE worst business owner in America. He has lost more money in the last decade than any other American alive, that hardly chimes with his self-portrayal as a successful businessman. He has hundreds of millions of dollars of loans due within the next four years and he doesn’t have the cash, nor assets, to repay those loans. He is in effect, bankrupt (financially as well as morally).

Large scale tax and insurance fraud; something you or I would put in jail for.

When you're a star they let you do it.......
 
How often do you see the left in paramilitary garb?



How often do you see them armed to the teeth?




How often do you see them acting as the SS/Brownshirts and illegally stopping citizens?


Quiet often. Maybe some Trump supporters are now armed due to being attacked like some on the left obviously are.



Don't make out that this is all coming from one side.
 
Quiet often. Maybe some Trump supporters are now armed due to being attacked like some on the left obviously are.



Don't make out that this is all coming from one side.


Or maybe Trump supporters are just sick of the left inciting violence and threatining to burn the country down if he gets back in office? Trump supporters aren't the ones inciting violence at rallies, the left are.
What's your stance here, fella? Is it from one side or not?
 
Don't make out that this is all coming from one side.
it was you that said it was only coming from the Left.

I also ask you if you actually have media coverage of these “armed Antifa” members actually patrolling the streets (rather than just one group of 5 sad cunts).

ps, you may also do well to watch the video that you posted (which I can tell you haven’t as it shows the reason why that tiny group decided to arm themselves - because of all the violence meted out to them by far right groups at previous protests including Charlottesville - which I don’t think was the point you were looking to actually make)
 
If it was a news article I'd get your point but there is video evidence. Watch it and make your own judgement.
You posted some footage of people fighting after saying that it's not Trump supporters that incite violence at rallies.

After being proven utterly wrong you've reverted to the both sides argument, which several people have shown that actually it's the Trump supporters responsible for the vast majority of it.
Now you're posting a two year old Australian news report that talks about the radical left's response to the white supremacists that have been emboldened by Trump. You'll notice the word "response" in the last sentence. I'm not condoning it but without the provocation from the white supremacists they would be an even smaller fringe than they actually are.

Any objective assessment would show that nearly all the violence from the left is a response to Trump's incitement of his supporters.

Are you now going to admit you're a Trump fan rather than hiding behind this "I'm looking at all aspects" bullshit.
 
it was you that said it was only coming from the Left.

I also ask you if you actually have media coverage of these “armed Antifa” members actually patrolling the streets (rather than just one group of 5 sad cunts).

ps, you may also do well to watch the video that you posted (which I can tell you haven’t as it shows the reason why that tiny group decided to arm themselves - because of all the violence meted out to them by far right groups at previous protests including Charlottesville - which I don’t think was the point you were looking to actually make)
He's just another Trumpet pretending to be impartial.

It's fucking obvious.
 
I have and the question still stands because I believe there is some movement in your opinion between pages.

I'll ask directly, is the violence due to one side or both sides?
Well you haven't. I've already said that after evidence has been produced from posters the violence is not exclusive to the left and is obviously coming from the right too. I do still believe larger numbers of the violence are directed at the right at this moment and in the run up to the election. There is no point in me posting links as it will get labelled as far right or non vetted news because it isn't from the mainstream media who are mainly left leaning anyway. Especially the BBC.
 
Back to his taxes.
Seems many people's suspicions are proving to have been correct.
He's possibly the worst businessman in US history and the biggest conman.

The only parts of his business empire that are actually making money are the hotels that are profiting from the US taxpayer paying them exorbitant rates for the Secret Service to stay in them when he's visiting, and when he's encouraged foreign governments to use them as a quid pro quo for favours.

It seems that as well as squandering the inheritance from his father, he's also squandered all the £400m he was paid for The Apprentice by buying loss making ventures. Not to mention the hundreds of millions owed to banks that is due to be repaid imminently.

I suspect he could end up with the distinction of being a negative multi-billionaire.

It's no wonder he's paid less tax in a decade than I pay every fucking week.
 
it was you that said it was only coming from the Left.

I also ask you if you actually have media coverage of these “armed Antifa” members actually patrolling the streets (rather than just one group of 5 sad cunts).

ps, you may also do well to watch the video that you posted (which I can tell you haven’t as it shows the reason why that tiny group decided to arm themselves - because of all the violence meted out to them by far right groups at previous protests including Charlottesville - which I don’t think was the point you were looking to actually make)
I then said later that it is obviously coming from both sides. So unless it's from mainstream media it's not credible? Gotcha. I know exactly what the video depicted. You want a balanced viewpoint do you not? That shows left and right are armed. You said the left are not armed or in paramilitary gear.
 
So unless it's from mainstream media it's not credible? Gotcha.

This is how I know you didn’t watch it, that video was an ABC News Australia segment from two years ago. It is mainstream media


I know exactly what the video depicted. You want a balanced viewpoint do you not?

But you didn’t watch it


You said the left are not armed or in paramilitary gear.

And they aren’t, I could post a dozen examples in different cities of alt right groups protesting in their hundreds whilst tooled up and armed to the teeth over the past few weeks. Your counter video was a two year old video of a group of half a dozen people that bought guns after being beaten up by right wing groups at protests. You didn’t watch it or know it was originally an ABC News piece and simply looked at the misleading headline.
 
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