Donald Trump

And this is what I keep hearing and seeing.

And so I will keep asking.

Who should they have run who could beat Trump then?

Ps. Trump has conviction. Well . . . A conviction.
It's hard to tell now because of how things played out.

They clearly didn't want Biden. So had Biden decided not to run, allow a primary and let the best candidates step forward. Perhaps some who even trash some of Biden's incompetence.

Perhaps that person would have had a chance

As Mackenzie put it, Kamala was uniquely terrible as a candidate.. And glued to Biden's unwanted regime too.
 
.The Dems need to rebuild and get a "real" message out that resonates with the people that voted against them.
They need to reconnect.

How they do that I have no idea, but they could/should start with someone who actually has conviction in what they are saying and connects with what matters for the majority.
I just explained what matters to the majority. Why else would people vote for Trump knowing all they know about him? They voted for his policies. Ask Dax. He's said it many times.

Bernie Sanders has conviction in what he's saying -- he couldn't be more opposed to many middle-of-the-road Democratic planks. Trump would have successfully painted him as a communist/socialist and middle-of-the-road Dems might have stayed home. Buttigieg? Newsom (LOL)? Whitmer?

If you want to blame someone, which I have, blame Biden for not stepping aside after the midterms.

But even so, we are back to criticizing the candidates, the messages, etc. without looking at the Occam's Razor argument:

The majority of voters buy what Trump is selling and want his policies, and if not him, despite him.

I really don't know how you sell around that.
 
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Well, it's hard to answer a question based on a false premise... "Pregnancy tests before interstate travel" My God Foggy... The daylight between you and Mr Kobayashi is getting harder and harder to find :(


Correct! They did not buy your theory of the case or that of the Democrats. They thought what directly affected their lives was more important. Silly folks.
And what, pray tell, was that?
 
And I've posted an answer to this before, weeks ago
And I'm not about to repeat myself.

It was/is up to the Dems to find a worthy candidate. Any "passing the parcel" antics to anyone who thought she was hopeless, is both lazy and deflective.
And it doesn't help to rebuild an effective opposition because it's denying any real responsibility and is not a proper examination of where things went wrong.
It's destructive and leads nowhere.. Blaming other people for voting for the opposition is not how to regroup and win the next battle ....self analysis and awareness is
Their best potential candidate is a gay man, who is smart, articulate, compassionate and not a fucking knob. If voters couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black woman, a gay guy has got absolutely no hope until the electorate grow the fuck up and realise election actually do have consequences.
 
Their best potential candidate is a gay man, who is smart, articulate, compassionate and not a fucking knob. If voters couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black woman, a gay guy has got absolutely no hope until the electorate grow the fuck up and realise election actually do have consequences.
I bet they could. Even the Republic of Ireland voted for a gay man, who was also multiracial!

If the general message is strong then that is what sways the voters.
 
That’s alright.
We’re a long long way from De Valera.
;-)
My mum used to get called a "Catlick" by the girls from the next school (Protestant, obviously), back in the late 1950s here in the UK. Things have moved on so much and in a short space of time really.
 
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