Donald Trump

No. No. No. Look it up yourself, though you can't be trusted. Tired of doing your work for you.
I asked because I don't understand what data you are talking about. The words "on a relative basis" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in your original post.

I was simply trying tease out how much lifting it was doing.

So what Crime data are you talking about?


Grocery prices are higher. WHY are they higher? How is that Biden's or Harris' fault? You FEEL it is. Prove it is.
They don't care if it's Biden or Harris fault. They've tried and haven't fixed it. Let someone else try. It's not rocket science.

I'm not projecting. You'll be back here supporting the GOP in 2028 no matter what happens. 100% guaranteed.
Well, if it's JD Vance of course I would. I already said that before. But this isn't about me though it's about the general voters who you, all of a sudden, don't trust to make up their own minds.

If things are terrible, independents as usual will want a change.

Like I've told you many times before, if your predictions are right then democrats will win easily in 4 years.

Barring any scandals though, id probably be voting for JD Vance.
 
Like I've told you many times before, if your predictions are right then democrats will win easily in 4 years.

Barring any scandals though, id probably be voting for JD Vance.
The FBI’s crime statistics estimates, based on reported data for 2023, show that national violent crime decreased an estimated 3.0% in 2023 compared to 2022 estimates:

  • Murder and non-negligent manslaughter recorded a 2023 estimated nationwide decrease of 11.6% compared to the previous year.
  • In 2023, the estimated number of offenses in the revised rape category saw an estimated 9.4% decrease.
  • Aggravated assault figures decreased an estimated 2.8% in 2023.
  • Robbery showed an estimated decrease of 0.3% nationally.
I haven't made any projections.

For all of his scandals, you voted for Trump. Forgive me if I don't believe that any scandal JDV could possibly undergo could possibly prevent you from voting for him.
 
Just read that Trump and his looney cult followers are sick of America being the "world's police".

That's like a fireman moaning when he's the arsonists setting the fires himself!
 
The FBI’s crime statistics estimates, based on reported data for 2023, show that national violent crime decreased an estimated 3.0% in 2023 compared to 2022 estimates:

  • Murder and non-negligent manslaughter recorded a 2023 estimated nationwide decrease of 11.6% compared to the previous year.
  • In 2023, the estimated number of offenses in the revised rape category saw an estimated 9.4% decrease.
  • Aggravated assault figures decreased an estimated 2.8% in 2023.
  • Robbery showed an estimated decrease of 0.3% nationally.
I haven't made any projections.

For all of his scandals, you voted for Trump. Forgive me if I don't believe that any scandal JDV could possibly undergo could possibly prevent you from voting for him.
There are well-reported problems with crime statistics.

In 2022, 31% of the 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the U.S. failed to report crime data to the FBI's national database after transitioning to a new data collection system, according to the latest statistics from the FBI. Participation has improved since 2021 when almost 40% of the agencies were missing.


In 2019, 89% of agencies covering 97% of the population submitted data, but by 2021, that coverage plummeted to less than 63% of departments overseeing just 65% of the population. Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York City all failed to submit crime data. To increase participation, the FBI relaxed the NIBRS requirement in 2022, allowing agencies to report via the legacy system.

And the figures the agencies do report to the FBI do not match the agencies’ publicly reported figures. For Baltimore, the FBI reported 225 murders in 2023, but the city reported 262 — which means the FBI left out 37 murders. In Milwaukee, the police department reported a 7% increase in robberies, but the FBI showed a 13% drop. Nashville’s own data tallied more than 6,900 aggravated assaults in 2023, but the FBI counted only 5,941, leaving almost 1,000 of those offenses “missing.” This trend is consistent across the board: While 2022’s FBI city-level figures track the police’s own data, the 2023 numbers consistently undercount offense totals. Any year-to-year comparison overstates decline.


Soros-backed District Attorneys nationwide, from New York to Chicago to Los Angeles, are downgrading felonies to misdemeanors. New numbers show Progressive Manhattan DA downgraded felonies to lesser charges 60% of the time, with 89% of the time they were downgraded to misdemeanors. This isn’t a new problem. In the past, Chicago has intentionally misclassified murders, instead labeling them as subject to non-criminal “death investigations.”


In a statement provided to Newsweek, the FBI said: "Participation in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program is voluntary. The accuracy of the statistics released by the FBI's UCR Program is based on data contributors' participation and adherence to national standards."

"Some of this data may not be comparable to previous years because of differing levels of participation over time," the statement added.

"Since 2020, the national crime victimization data measure of reported crimes has been perfectly negatively related to the FBI's reported measure of crimes," Lott said. He referred to a 2022 FBI statistic that showed violent crimes fell by 2%, while the DOJ's victim survey showed a 29% increase.




Then there's the issue of perception. You know the one where Congress is corrupt and useless, but not MY representative.

Americans tend to believe crime is up, even when official data shows it is down.

In 23 of 27 Gallup surveys conducted since 1993, at least 60% of U.S. adults have said there is more crime nationally than there was the year before, despite the downward trend in crime rates during most of that period.


I have no idea what the truth is. It's a mess.


Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.​


 
Just read that Trump and his looney cult followers are sick of America being the "world's police".

That's like a fireman moaning when he's the arsonists setting the fires himself!
You are getting your analogies mixed up here. I know it's not what you intend, but it sounds like you are being pro-Trump and his cult..

Think about it and rephrase. You don't want the folks thinking you are a Trumpite
 
There are well-reported problems with crime statistics.

In 2022, 31% of the 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the U.S. failed to report crime data to the FBI's national database after transitioning to a new data collection system, according to the latest statistics from the FBI. Participation has improved since 2021 when almost 40% of the agencies were missing.


In 2019, 89% of agencies covering 97% of the population submitted data, but by 2021, that coverage plummeted to less than 63% of departments overseeing just 65% of the population. Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York City all failed to submit crime data. To increase participation, the FBI relaxed the NIBRS requirement in 2022, allowing agencies to report via the legacy system.

And the figures the agencies do report to the FBI do not match the agencies’ publicly reported figures. For Baltimore, the FBI reported 225 murders in 2023, but the city reported 262 — which means the FBI left out 37 murders. In Milwaukee, the police department reported a 7% increase in robberies, but the FBI showed a 13% drop. Nashville’s own data tallied more than 6,900 aggravated assaults in 2023, but the FBI counted only 5,941, leaving almost 1,000 of those offenses “missing.” This trend is consistent across the board: While 2022’s FBI city-level figures track the police’s own data, the 2023 numbers consistently undercount offense totals. Any year-to-year comparison overstates decline.


Soros-backed District Attorneys nationwide, from New York to Chicago to Los Angeles, are downgrading felonies to misdemeanors. New numbers show Progressive Manhattan DA downgraded felonies to lesser charges 60% of the time, with 89% of the time they were downgraded to misdemeanors. This isn’t a new problem. In the past, Chicago has intentionally misclassified murders, instead labeling them as subject to non-criminal “death investigations.”


In a statement provided to Newsweek, the FBI said: "Participation in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program is voluntary. The accuracy of the statistics released by the FBI's UCR Program is based on data contributors' participation and adherence to national standards."

"Some of this data may not be comparable to previous years because of differing levels of participation over time," the statement added.

"Since 2020, the national crime victimization data measure of reported crimes has been perfectly negatively related to the FBI's reported measure of crimes," Lott said. He referred to a 2022 FBI statistic that showed violent crimes fell by 2%, while the DOJ's victim survey showed a 29% increase.




Then there's the issue of perception. You know the one where Congress is corrupt and useless, but not MY representative.

Americans tend to believe crime is up, even when official data shows it is down.

In 23 of 27 Gallup surveys conducted since 1993, at least 60% of U.S. adults have said there is more crime nationally than there was the year before, despite the downward trend in crime rates during most of that period.


I have no idea what the truth is. It's a mess.


Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.​



Damn? I was about to go through this... But you are clearly better at this than I am. I'm happy I went to the transfer forum for a few minutes. :)

@FogBlueInSanFran over to you. The people are not crazy even if your FBI is fudging statistics and then revising them a year later without notice.

But here's a report you can read on crime fudging. Democrats love telling voters to stop believing their lying eyes.

 
There are well-reported problems with crime statistics.

In 2022, 31% of the 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the U.S. failed to report crime data to the FBI's national database after transitioning to a new data collection system, according to the latest statistics from the FBI. Participation has improved since 2021 when almost 40% of the agencies were missing.


In 2019, 89% of agencies covering 97% of the population submitted data, but by 2021, that coverage plummeted to less than 63% of departments overseeing just 65% of the population. Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York City all failed to submit crime data. To increase participation, the FBI relaxed the NIBRS requirement in 2022, allowing agencies to report via the legacy system.

And the figures the agencies do report to the FBI do not match the agencies’ publicly reported figures. For Baltimore, the FBI reported 225 murders in 2023, but the city reported 262 — which means the FBI left out 37 murders. In Milwaukee, the police department reported a 7% increase in robberies, but the FBI showed a 13% drop. Nashville’s own data tallied more than 6,900 aggravated assaults in 2023, but the FBI counted only 5,941, leaving almost 1,000 of those offenses “missing.” This trend is consistent across the board: While 2022’s FBI city-level figures track the police’s own data, the 2023 numbers consistently undercount offense totals. Any year-to-year comparison overstates decline.


Soros-backed District Attorneys nationwide, from New York to Chicago to Los Angeles, are downgrading felonies to misdemeanors. New numbers show Progressive Manhattan DA downgraded felonies to lesser charges 60% of the time, with 89% of the time they were downgraded to misdemeanors. This isn’t a new problem. In the past, Chicago has intentionally misclassified murders, instead labeling them as subject to non-criminal “death investigations.”


In a statement provided to Newsweek, the FBI said: "Participation in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program is voluntary. The accuracy of the statistics released by the FBI's UCR Program is based on data contributors' participation and adherence to national standards."

"Some of this data may not be comparable to previous years because of differing levels of participation over time," the statement added.

"Since 2020, the national crime victimization data measure of reported crimes has been perfectly negatively related to the FBI's reported measure of crimes," Lott said. He referred to a 2022 FBI statistic that showed violent crimes fell by 2%, while the DOJ's victim survey showed a 29% increase.




Then there's the issue of perception. You know the one where Congress is corrupt and useless, but not MY representative.

Americans tend to believe crime is up, even when official data shows it is down.

In 23 of 27 Gallup surveys conducted since 1993, at least 60% of U.S. adults have said there is more crime nationally than there was the year before, despite the downward trend in crime rates during most of that period.


I have no idea what the truth is. It's a mess.


Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.​



In other words, Foggy ' facts' are really just feelings no different than those of the voters he despises for having feelings. Lol


The irony :)
 
You are getting your analogies mixed up here. I know it's not what you intend, but it sounds like you are being pro-Trump and his cult..

Think about it and rephrase. You don't want the folks thinking you are a Trumpite
I'm fairly sure Fulabeer is happy with America being the police in the middle east and Tens of Billions of American Taxpayers dollars going to Israel. Judging by his post on the middle east thread.
 

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