Douglas Luiz

samuelyeboah said:
at the risk of sounding a bit prudish and enraging the rabble, would it be such a bad idea if we made this forum a bit more comfortable a space for female commentators and refrained from.. whatever this is?
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The mods step in when it goes too far.

The idea that most women are uncomfortable with men saying a woman is fit, is bonkers. They are as uncomfortable with it as men are when a bunch of women talk about how Haaland has a nice arse.

Women aren't delicate little creatures who need protection, they're normal human beings.
 
I like him a lot. We never should’ve sold him. Will take him even on a permanent.

Calm and composed on the ball, can be a makeshift DM or a box to box alongside Rodri.

No brainer for me. Shouldn’t cost much anyways. Worse case scenario, becomes first bench option in Midfield. (Gundogan, Bernardo, Kova gone)
 
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jollylescott said:
In my opinion that's the right call by City. A loan with no obligation to buy would suit our short term needs.
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A loan with an agreed fee - but an option - would be best. He’d be a quality squad player if we could sign him permanently but he’d need to perform in the loan.

If he performs and there’s no agreed fee at an option then they could try and rip us off.

I wonder if we ‘agree’ to take him on loan with a small obligation on the basis of an easier negotiation for Cambiaso in the Summer…? I’m sure we’ve done something similar in the past (overpaid) but can’t remember the players/club.
 
samuelyeboah said:
at the risk of sounding a bit prudish and enraging the rabble, would it be such a bad idea if we made this forum a bit more comfortable a space for female commentators and refrained from.. whatever this is?
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Jeez...

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Despite being loyal and only ever having eyes for one woman at a time in my life, and honestly never even looking at other women in a realistic way, then at the risk of sounding like some sort of gross horrible womaniser for any easily offended types... Really?

Honestly I fully understand if someone is very bored of these comments or it's against their tastes that's their prerogative, even if it's just about getting the Douglas Luiz thread back on track focusing mainly on comments relating to his potential transfer.

But we're all humans and women are no different in the way they talk, they aren't precious little things who need protecting from comments...

With the amount of women who swoon over the likes Jack Grealish calves and whatever else is on display, like my mother in law every time he's on TV checking out for his calves arse or other areas it's madness.

Your comment might have well thought out intentions and some may vehemently agree but honestly it isn't real life, humans both male or female do this very thing you're saying "whatever this is" all the time and it's absurd to pretend otherwise, honestly the Mrs thinks Grealish is a dog in her own words but actually fancies Pep and more strangely Foden.
Lots of women in the 1990s objectified the likes of David Beckham and Jamie Redknapp back then, also Rodney Marsh and George Best and Kevin Keegan in his tight shorts before that too.

Is it a bit crass? Maybe but plenty of women if you're around them long enough watching football or even in the work place, straight ones are frothing at the mouth all over male footballers or celebrities they like, every single week and about what they'd actually do to them too if they got them alone.

Yet the way your comment comes across is that it's a male only thing? Most are clearly jokes I know mine was whether people think it was in poor taste or not, If it's against the rules which I'm not aware then fair enough however both genders clearly do this all the time, so unless you're very easily offended or want to get the thread talking about only Douglas Luiz I don't really get the comment too much.

One thing I will acknowledge is I fully understand the forum might even want to avoid it generally as a rule... I do realise it could get seriously out of line I've seen passing comments like this a good few times, importantly though even from female members of this forum about their favourite footballer.

What I'm saying is women and it needs to be said talk this way about dream celebrities or people they fancy in a very very objectifying manner all the time, when I helped build the Etihad I won't deny that the ogling and comments relating to women blokes liked was there.

The worst place I've ever worked at for people objectifying the opposite sex though was a female dominated office and rightly nobody was offended, women make these sort of passing comments all the time and usually in my experience much more than men, usually in a far more perverted manner than men ever do if you're within ear space of them too, the dirty old women in Harry Enfield was quite funny because although absurdly played out there was an element of real truth to it.

Fair enough if you don't like the comments but proper grown women are not poor little things that need protecting from stuff like this, they'll honestly do it themselves and young girls if raised properly should always be encouraged from an early age to stand up for themselves.

This is nowt compared to the real life issues women and young girls or vulnerable people can find themselves facing, every single day from actual predators online and in real life these are comments related to human nature.

If anything it comes across more like another classic Harry Enfield sketch, the women know your limits one...

where after the video analysis is belittling a woman's intelligent views, it instead shows the woman then making a silly comment about kittens during a debate, where upon Harry's character says "what a delightful thought, you dear sweet fragile thing."
If anything your comment actually infers women are too innocent or precious, to ever be capable of this kind of behaviour or being around it and I promise you that is very far from the case.
 
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Positionally aware decent all round player with proven Premier League experience, he could really help out but if we go for him on loan then we should only want an option to buy.

There should never under any circumstances be an obligation to buy because there's a difference to playing for Villa and us, with an obligation to buy he could turn out to be shite while on the loan and then we're stuck with him regardless.

I'm sure he'd jump at the chance after pretty much being forced to leave us, due to the FA not implementing new rules on old contracts, had we signed Douglas Luiz just a bit later we'd have been allowed to keep him.

A loan move could be ideal as he might end up getting more exposed with less mobile midfielders around him, so if we're interested in him a short term loan costing £5m with an option to buy if he impresses it wouldn't be a bad deal at all.

I suspect we'd be doing this potential loan transfer as a last minute deal though, that we'd prioritise wrapping up any potential move for Cambiaso off them first if the interest in him is concrete.
 
By all accounts City didn't want luiz to leave first time around.

Developed his game a lot at villa, so much so he got a big move to Juve. Things haven’t worked out.

This signing would be astute, won’t grab headlines but would certainly make the midfield more robust.

Option to buy at end of loan is the way to go. Especially if he produces the goods. We don’t want Juve upping the price.

Would be very happy with this signing.
 
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Proven in the Premier League; Decent age with theoretically his best 3 years ahead of him; Knows the club, we know him; Better than what we have in hold midfield - which is currently nothing; Can run and get up/down the pitch; wont pee in the tent if he has to step aside in some games when Rodri's fit but also allows us not to have to flog Rodri to death again. Great pen taker as well.
 
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Not a big fan of loan deals for a few months. I think we should try and sign someone for the long-term. When Rodri returns, chances are we will have an even harder time buying someone in that position. I would rather spend big on a versatile Cambiasso now.
 
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