mansour's tow ropes said:Anyone who doesn't acknowledge the nature of these arguments, and thinks they are somehow good, need to take the blue tinted specs off. Like someone said its just like Mancini's final season again, the players deep down know this manager has run his course and have lost a bit of commitment to him. We don't see this sort of bickering at any point during the title winning seasons.
That one between Aguero and Silva quite early on when Silva overhit his pass to Aguero was worrying. It doesn't make us look a unified team singing from the same hymn sheet.
As a slight aside, did anyone else notice how much Toure was shouting at Fernando in the first half, to move into different positions to receive a pass etc? Demichelis doing it too in the 2nd half. In previous games I've noticed players ignoring Fernando when in possession. Unsurprisingly, I don't think they rate him either.
mansour's tow ropes said:Anyone who doesn't acknowledge the nature of these arguments, and thinks they are somehow good, need to take the blue tinted specs off. Like someone said its just like Mancini's final season again, the players deep down know this manager has run his course and have lost a bit of commitment to him. We don't see this sort of bickering at any point during the title winning seasons.
That one between Aguero and Silva quite early on when Silva overhit his pass to Aguero was worrying. It doesn't make us look a unified team singing from the same hymn sheet.
As a slight aside, did anyone else notice how much Toure was shouting at Fernando in the first half, to move into different positions to receive a pass etc? Demichelis doing it too in the 2nd half. In previous games I've noticed players ignoring Fernando when in possession. Unsurprisingly, I don't think they rate him either.
ecviper said:mansour's tow ropes said:Anyone who doesn't acknowledge the nature of these arguments, and thinks they are somehow good, need to take the blue tinted specs off. Like someone said its just like Mancini's final season again, the players deep down know this manager has run his course and have lost a bit of commitment to him. We don't see this sort of bickering at any point during the title winning seasons.
That one between Aguero and Silva quite early on when Silva overhit his pass to Aguero was worrying. It doesn't make us look a unified team singing from the same hymn sheet.
As a slight aside, did anyone else notice how much Toure was shouting at Fernando in the first half, to move into different positions to receive a pass etc? Demichelis doing it too in the 2nd half. In previous games I've noticed players ignoring Fernando when in possession. Unsurprisingly, I don't think they rate him either.
This may well be that Fernando doesn't make himself available nor look like he actually wants to receive the ball. Causes our players frustration who need him to be close by or run into space to get the attack moving. He sits too deep when we have possession so the attacking move isn't fluid hence they bypass him. With Fernandinho he makes himself available for Yaya when Silva and Nasri isn't an option. Fernando isn't attack minded hence his lack of forward movement to help out the attack.
bugsyblue said:MODs do move or delete this if it's inappropriate, I don't want it to be deemed sensationalist or shit stirring, but personally I think it's worth a discussion in its own topic as it's something a lot of people have picked up on in the match day forum and manager topic.
Does anyone else think there is unrest in the dressing room? Kompany's form and demeanour, Silva and Aguero arguing tonight, Silva storming off down the tunnel again, Nasri being dropped etc.
Something doesn't seem right. BUT it could quite conceivable be just the pressure of losing ground in the race for the title.
Thoughts?
I can't say I've noticed it that much, but last night they ran into each other after about a minute, and Aguero spent much of the night in Silva's space. To me it didn't look like arguing, more discussion. Yaya and Demechelis frustrated with Fernando ? Not really surprising, 44,000 others were too, its a long time since I've seen a player put so much effort into avoiding a football, as he did in the first 45 minutes yesterday, improved second half, but unlikely he could have got worse.tolmie's hairdoo said:Silva and Aguero have been arguing for weeks.
I mentioned it on here a few weeks back how taken aback I was at Sergio giving Dave stick. It must have happened in every game since.
Perhaps, they have always done this, and it's only in difficult situations in terms of results, that frustrations can be also be then interpreted as unrest.
They are both winners.
ecviper said:mansour's tow ropes said:Anyone who doesn't acknowledge the nature of these arguments, and thinks they are somehow good, need to take the blue tinted specs off. Like someone said its just like Mancini's final season again, the players deep down know this manager has run his course and have lost a bit of commitment to him. We don't see this sort of bickering at any point during the title winning seasons.
That one between Aguero and Silva quite early on when Silva overhit his pass to Aguero was worrying. It doesn't make us look a unified team singing from the same hymn sheet.
As a slight aside, did anyone else notice how much Toure was shouting at Fernando in the first half, to move into different positions to receive a pass etc? Demichelis doing it too in the 2nd half. In previous games I've noticed players ignoring Fernando when in possession. Unsurprisingly, I don't think they rate him either.
This may well be that Fernando doesn't make himself available nor look like he actually wants to receive the ball. Causes our players frustration who need him to be close by or run into space to get the attack moving. He sits too deep when we have possession so the attacking move isn't fluid hence they bypass him. With Fernandinho he makes himself available for Yaya when Silva and Nasri isn't an option. Fernando isn't attack minded hence his lack of forward movement to help out the attack.
cleavers said:I can't say I've noticed it that much, but last night they ran into each other after about a minute, and Aguero spent much of the night in Silva's space. To me it didn't look like arguing, more discussion. Yaya and Demechelis frustrated with Fernando ? Not really surprising, 44,000 others were too, its a long time since I've seen a player put so much effort into avoiding a football, as he did in the first 45 minutes yesterday, improved second half, but unlikely he could have got worse.tolmie's hairdoo said:Silva and Aguero have been arguing for weeks.
I mentioned it on here a few weeks back how taken aback I was at Sergio giving Dave stick. It must have happened in every game since.
Perhaps, they have always done this, and it's only in difficult situations in terms of results, that frustrations can be also be then interpreted as unrest.
They are both winners.