Eden Hazard (continued)

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squirtyflower said:
dctid said:
sam-caddick said:
If you read into the Kagawa signing and read the quotes from Dortmund, Kagawa himself and his agent; he is nailed on for a move to the Premier League, Kagawa is videos saying he is going United apparently.

If United get Hazard they will get Kagawa as well IMO - they need them for a push in the Champions League.

I am expecting some sort of clearout at the scum the Summer and next January.

They need them to win the prem - Fergies first priority will to make sure he gets the prem bacl - a good CL run is what hw would expect

If the rags do get these players then with Vidic back they will be extremely strong and be a much improved team than this season.
and money?
where is it all coming from?

they may get one, can't see both

Disagree pal, United have the money to buy both and in reality they need to if they want any chance of taking their title back and a good CL run - the myth that they cannot spend because of their debt is taken out of proportion, there is a difference between debt and deficit.
 
squirtyflower said:
BlueCityfan said:
sam-caddick said:
If you read into the Kagawa signing and read the quotes from Dortmund, Kagawa himself and his agent; he is nailed on for a move to the Premier League, Kagawa is videos saying he is going United apparently.

If United get Hazard they will get Kagawa as well IMO - they need them for a push in the Champions League.

I am expecting some sort of clearout at the scum the Summer and next January.

Honestly, you think United would get both? Very unlikely IMO. If Kagawa goes to United, can't see them signing Hazard. And the other way around.

But they seem more likely to get Kagawa. For some reason i can't see United paying 30m+ for Hazard.
it wouldn't surprise me if Kagawa is their fall back position if they fail with Hazard


What I don't understand about the Kagawa thing is the order of events,

As I understand them to be:

United were in for Hazard,

City come in for Hazard, and Fergie goes on a rant about how we're offering big money and pushing them out the market,

United give up on Hazard, and move on Kagawa. Fergie apparently has meeting with Kagawa, and Kagawa himself claims on video he will move to United,

City look close to signing Hazard and suddenly United are right back in the frame,

Chelsea win the CL and are also suddenly in the frame. Chelsea do in a couple of days what it's taken us and United weeks to organise,


Hazard reveals terms agreed with all three clubs. (Fee with Lille not confirmed, maybe this is where the stalling lays).

It all doesn't seem to add up.
 
sam-caddick said:
squirtyflower said:
dctid said:
They need them to win the prem - Fergies first priority will to make sure he gets the prem bacl - a good CL run is what hw would expect

If the rags do get these players then with Vidic back they will be extremely strong and be a much improved team than this season.
and money?
where is it all coming from?

they may get one, can't see both

Disagree pal, United have the money to buy both and in reality they need to if they want any chance of taking their title back and a good CL run - the myth that they cannot spend because of their debt is taken out of proportion, there is a difference between debt and deficit.
everyone can see that scum have to do some rebuilding before August

so ask yourself why would they spunk most of their cash on two players that play the same position, and one that can be covered by Shrek?
they have other areas just as urgent so one for each position rather than two for one and leave the other empty
 
you are right goo...hazard is a 21 year old kid with potential...nothing more nothing less...man utd would be risking a lot if they sign him...they need a quality central midfielder before anything else...no point signing a kid that isnt sure if hes a winger or attacking midfielder. Chelsea will put a good offer in..but then again they are in transitional period themselves . we need a winger with pace and craft..unless mancini is selling tevez/edin...if so we need a winger and a striker............i like the possibility of martinez though ..he should be more of a priority than hazard.
 
Thanks for the answers. I'm gonna give the Russia Uruguay friendly a watch until Belgium plays.
 
sam-caddick said:
squirtyflower said:
dctid said:
They need them to win the prem - Fergies first priority will to make sure he gets the prem bacl - a good CL run is what hw would expect

If the rags do get these players then with Vidic back they will be extremely strong and be a much improved team than this season.
and money?
where is it all coming from?

they may get one, can't see both

Disagree pal, United have the money to buy both and in reality they need to if they want any chance of taking their title back and a good CL run - the myth that they cannot spend because of their debt is taken out of proportion, there is a difference between debt and deficit.

Since when is it "their title" I could have sworn we won the title.
 
Bobbies Black Bins said:
sam-caddick said:
squirtyflower said:
and money?
where is it all coming from?

they may get one, can't see both

Disagree pal, United have the money to buy both and in reality they need to if they want any chance of taking their title back and a good CL run - the myth that they cannot spend because of their debt is taken out of proportion, there is a difference between debt and deficit.

Since when is it "their title" I could have sworn we won the title.

BUSTED!!!
 
cyprustavern said:
you are right goo...hazard is a 21 year old kid with potential...nothing more nothing less...man utd would be risking a lot if they sign him...they need a quality central midfielder before anything else...no point signing a kid that isnt sure if hes a winger or attacking midfielder. Chelsea will put a good offer in..but then again they are in transitional period themselves . we need a winger with pace and craft..unless mancini is selling tevez/edin...if so we need a winger and a striker............i like the possibility of martinez though ..he should be more of a priority than hazard.
Exactly he is a kid that could turn out a good player. No way he is worth the silly money being banded about.
 
Bobbies Black Bins said:
cyprustavern said:
you are right goo...hazard is a 21 year old kid with potential...nothing more nothing less...man utd would be risking a lot if they sign him...they need a quality central midfielder before anything else...no point signing a kid that isnt sure if hes a winger or attacking midfielder. Chelsea will put a good offer in..but then again they are in transitional period themselves . we need a winger with pace and craft..unless mancini is selling tevez/edin...if so we need a winger and a striker............i like the possibility of martinez though ..he should be more of a priority than hazard.
Exactly he is a kid that could turn out a good player. No way he is worth the silly money being banded about.
He won't get silly money...
 
mcfc2607 said:
Bobbies Black Bins said:
sam-caddick said:
Disagree pal, United have the money to buy both and in reality they need to if they want any chance of taking their title back and a good CL run - the myth that they cannot spend because of their debt is taken out of proportion, there is a difference between debt and deficit.

Since when is it "their title" I could have sworn we won the title.

BUSTED!!!



i thought the same ages ago.
 
mcfc2607 said:
Jumanji said:
Thanks for the answers. I'm gonna give the Russia Uruguay friendly a watch until Belgium plays.
is that on the telly on on a stream.
Stream, but it's probably on tv somewhere.

Good game too. 1-1 Suarez goal and then Russia score right after
 
sam-caddick said:
Tevez City said:
sam-caddick said:
Bluemoon is going to go into meltdown if Hazard signs for the scum!

Calling him all sorts of names.

And RagCafe will go into meltdown if Hazard signs for City.

The hype is unreal though mate, we are treating it as if we are signing Messi or Ronaldo!

Its more about who we are bidding against tbh mate...
 
cyprustavern said:
mcfc2607 said:
Bobbies Black Bins said:
Since when is it "their title" I could have sworn we won the title.

BUSTED!!!



i thought the same ages ago.

hahaha, apologies blues - try living in a family where the majority of them are scum, they put words in my mouth.

anyway we are the champions and we are going to sign hazard!!! ctid
 
samharris said:
sam-caddick said:
Tevez City said:
And RagCafe will go into meltdown if Hazard signs for City.

The hype is unreal though mate, we are treating it as if we are signing Messi or Ronaldo!

Its more about who we are bidding against tbh mate...



it will be seen initially as a feather in whoever gets hims cap...after that if its us the press will be negative...unproven waste of money,mercenery etc ...if utd or chelsea get him the press will be less harsh.only way he will silence them if we sign him is if he starts like a train on fire, the idiots that voice negetive opinions about us should of learned a lesson from last season..but i doubt it.
 
cyprustavern said:
samharris said:
sam-caddick said:
The hype is unreal though mate, we are treating it as if we are signing Messi or Ronaldo!

Its more about who we are bidding against tbh mate...



it will be seen initially as a feather in whoever gets hims cap...after that if its us the press will be negative...unproven waste of money,mercenery etc ...if utd or chelsea get him the press will be less harsh.only way he will silence them if we sign him is if he starts like a train on fire, the idiots that voice negetive opinions about us should of learned a lesson from last season..but i doubt it.

If United sifn him the press would write about their statement of intent to come back to the tron and to be the champions of Universe and surrounding..
 
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