Ederson Moraes

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Like everyone on this forum watched him few times seen his you tube videos.
Looks good, brave and likes to command the whole 18 yard box, great kick out, great distribution but like every goalkeeper will make odd few bad decisions and get punished. If he does make mistake in first game or two. This forum will make shite of him and blame pep for not sticking with Joe who never made any mistakes :-).
 
Having looked at the vids, am terrified he will give our bent officials an excuse to send him off every game driving to feet. Simulation from players looking for contact I think he looks a fantastic buy and hope the cheating bastards don't fuck him up.
 
bumbleblue said:
Having looked at the vids, am terrified he will give our bent officials an excuse to send him off every game driving to feet. Simulation from players looking for contact I think he looks a fantastic buy and hope the cheating bastards don't fuck him up.
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It's not complicated and it's not something for a refereeing conspiracy.

If he comes out and wins the ball he'll be fine, like every other keeper in the country.

If he comes out and misses the ball while taking out the player, he'll get sent off like every other keeper in the country.


I mean seriously, if there was a refereeing conspiracy looking to send off our keepers then Bravo would have gotten a red in the first derby wouldn't he?
 
BuryBlue1977 said:
Got to be honest I don't know much about him. Is he any good?
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Benfica supporter here, let me be as unbiased as I can.

Ederson is a tremendous goalie with a great field presence. He oozes confidence and that trespasses to the rest of the team, especially the defense. However, for all the praise he is receiving and what is being said in the media, footwork is not his strongest characteristic. I don't know where people first got this idea from. He has an outrageously long kick, and great accuracy, but I never felt like he was that good at working with the ball at his feet near the area, or under pressure for that matter. Seldom does he chose to distribute to the players close to him - on thing Guardiola will have to work on, should he sign for you, is fighting Ederson's urge to kick the ball away. You should take advantage of his ability to clinically pass to the 9 or other forward from his own area, you have some fast players and a counter such as that once in a while can be profitable, but not always does it work or is the wisest decision, and it sure as hell's not something Pep enjoys too much.

For me, Ederson's greatest features are his shot stopping abilities, agility and ruthlessness. I do not know if that's what you're looking for or not, but it is how it is. He's very instinctive but he's also very clever at filling the lines and gaps. You will never find him out of position, and you'll notice he is always at the best spot to cover the goal as most as he can or to attack the ball. He's never too far back, nor he is ever too much to the front. I can honestly only remember him conceding from afar once or twice. The way he charges the ball and the attacker, though, has got to be his strongest trait. He is an ice cold mother-fucker, but because he is so agile and quick-minded, he almost never concedes a foul. I remember one time in CL, though, where he mistimed an effort and caused a penalty, but proceeded to save it. I don't need to tell you all this becaue you've probably seen it in most clips by now.

Anyway, Pep knows what he wants and needs more than I do, of course. But what I'm saying is true, and if Guardiola wishes to have Ederson by his side, then he must think he can still mold him while still utilizing his inate traits, which makes me think it's definitely a long-term move. Can't see a contract shorter than 5 years.

Oh, and until some actually believable source comes out, don't trust rumours too much (more to do with costs involved, I'm pretty sure he'll be yours for next season). Always, and I mean always, take Portuguese sports media with a pinch of salt.

Cheers from Portugal and sorry for any spelling mistakes.
 
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Dom am not saying I don't want him ( wouldn't matter anyway ), but I was, like most of us absolutely raging about some of the decisions that went against us last year. Hope he comes hope he is fucking awesome and the pots cabinet is bulging!
 
RICK SLICK said:
Benfica supporter here, let me be as unbiased as I can.

Ederson is a tremendous goalie with a great field presence. He oozes confidence and that trespasses to the rest of the team, especially the defense. However, for all the praise he is receiving and what is being said in the media, footwork is not his strongest characteristic. I don't know where people first got this idea from. He has an outrageously long kick, and great accuracy, but I never felt like he was that good at working with the ball at his feet near the area, or under pressure for that matter. Seldom does he chose to distribute to the players close to him - on thing Guardiola will have to work on, should he sign for you, is fighting Ederson's urge to kick the ball away. You should take advantage of his ability to clinically pass to the 9 or other forward from his own area, you have some fast players and a counter such as that once in a while can be profitable, but not always does it work or is the wisest decision, and it sure as hell's not something Pep enjoys too much.

For me, Ederson's greatest features are his shot stopping abilities, agility and ruthlessness. I do not know if that's what you're looking for or not, but it is how it is. He's very instinctive but he's also very clever at filling the lines and gaps. You will never find him out of position, and you'll notice he is always at the best spot to cover the goal as most as he can or to attack the ball. He's never too far back, nor he is ever too much to the front. I can honestly only remember him conceding from afar once or twice. The way he charges the ball and the attacker, though, has got to be his strongest trait. He is an ice cold mother-fucker, but because he is so agile and quick-minded, he almost never concedes a foul. I remember one time in CL, though, where he mistimed an effort and caused a penalty, but proceeded to save it. I don't need to tell you all this becaue you've probably seen it in most clips by now.

Anyway, Pep knows what he wants and needs more than I do, of course. But what I'm saying is true, and if Guardiola wishes to have Ederson by his side, then he must think he can still mold him while still utilizing his inate traits, which makes me think it's definitely a long-term move. Can't see a contract shorter than 5 years.

Oh, and until some actually believable source comes out, don't trust rumours too much (more to do with costs involved, I'm pretty sure he'll be yours for next season). Always, and I mean always, take Portuguese sports media with a pinch of salt.

Cheers from Portugal and sorry for any spelling mistakes.
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Thanks for your opinion. I really don't know whether to be excited by this or to be living in the past and yearning for joe hart
 
Thank you for a well balanced and informed post Rick Slick. Fingers crossed Ederson will become one of the best keepers around.
 
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