Otamendi is fantastic on paper because sites like whoscored and squawka don't have reliable stats for being out of position or too slow to catch up to play. I don't think Otamendi's awful but he has to be partnered with a fantastic covering CB or the defence is weakened by him rushing out all the time.
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Eliaquim Mangala
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prestonibbo_mcfc
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Otamendi is fantastic on paper because sites like whoscored and squawka don't have reliable stats for being out of position or too slow to catch up to play. I don't think Otamendi's awful but he has to be partnered with a fantastic covering CB or the defence is weakened by him rushing out all the time.
He looked a lot better and calmer alongside Vinnie, at the backend of the season.
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There will be posters replying back to you with stats showing how good otamendi is. I've seen with my own eyes that he's not at the standard required. You could say stones is the same, but it's fair to give him a chance, seeing as he's younger and only been here for a year.
Sat in 107 every other week I know he isn't up to it. Stones neither. I'd honestly bring Mangala to back and stick him with VK. Neither Nico or John are at the level we require mate. Whoever signed the Stones transfer off wants sacking.
Whoever signed the Stones transfer off wants sacking.
That'd be Guardiola then.
Sat in 107 every other week I know he isn't up to it. Stones neither. I'd honestly bring Mangala to back and stick him with VK. Neither Nico or John are at the level we require mate. Whoever signed the Stones transfer off wants sacking.
Fuck me you really are clueless if you think fucking Mangala is at the required standard. Stick to bullshitting about transfers.
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Rosler1985, you have a real bee in your bonnet don't you haha.
I like Mangala and think he was given a rough time whilst he was with us, never played much with Kompany (Every CB looks twice as good when they do) and played in a defence that wasn't great most of the time with little to no protection from the midfield.
He will be sold, unless in this next week he has a stormer and Pep has a re think but I think the funds we can get for him are already marked down for other transfers so unfortunately he will make way.
I like Mangala and think he was given a rough time whilst he was with us, never played much with Kompany (Every CB looks twice as good when they do) and played in a defence that wasn't great most of the time with little to no protection from the midfield.
He will be sold, unless in this next week he has a stormer and Pep has a re think but I think the funds we can get for him are already marked down for other transfers so unfortunately he will make way.
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He looked a lot better and calmer alongside Vinnie, at the backend of the season.
Which is absolute testament to Vin. Says a lot about Nico as a footballer.
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Fuck me you really are clueless if you think fucking Mangala is at the required standard. Stick to bullshitting about transfers.
Will do son. Thanks for your input.
philjoneswho?
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Wow...debut I thought he be a beast, shite after that. I actually saw him kick someone in the chest because he missed the ball! Stones is class how you could say otherwise is damn right fascinatingSat in 107 every other week I know he isn't up to it. Stones neither. I'd honestly bring Mangala to back and stick him with VK. Neither Nico or John are at the level we require mate. Whoever signed the Stones transfer off wants sacking.
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Wow...debut I thought he be a beast, shite after that. I actually saw him kick someone in the chest because he missed the ball! Stones is class how you could say otherwise is damn right fascinating
Stones is class? I suggest you rewatch our home tie with Monaco pal
prestonibbo_mcfc
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Which is absolute testament to Vin. Says a lot about Nico as a footballer.
Think his problem could be the language. It's OK to learn a language but then have to convey your meaning in pressurised situations.
He needs someone alongside to take charge. Vinnie is ideal. Stones, well there's a communication breakdown straightaway. Have you
heard Barnsley ? ;-)
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Stonesy will come good no worries.Sat in 107 every other week I know he isn't up to it. Stones neither. I'd honestly bring Mangala to back and stick him with VK. Neither Nico or John are at the level we require mate. Whoever signed the Stones transfer off wants sacking.
philjoneswho?
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I appreciate you have an alternate opinion...Stones is basically everything in a footballer Guardiola needs. At 23 he's an unbelievable talent. He's had a few poor games sure but at least we're nurturing his talent. I'm afraid Mangala has no talent to nurture.Stones is class? I suggest you rewatch our home tie with Monaco pal
skiddypants
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I appreciate you have an alternate opinion...Stones is basically everything in a footballer Guardiola needs. At 23 he's an unbelievable talent. He's had a few poor games sure but at least we're nurturing his talent. I'm afraid Mangala has no talent to nurture.
That seems pretty harsh!
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I really want to see him get a chance under Pep. His passing wasn't that bad with Valencia this season, similar to what Kolarov's would've been if he was on that team. Having to buy a new CB every window is annoying and it would be great for Pep to iron out his issues to make him an even better player.
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I really want to see him get a chance under Pep. His passing wasn't that bad with Valencia this season, similar to what Kolarov's would've been if he was on that team. Having to buy a new CB every window is annoying and it would be great for Pep to iron out his issues to make him an even better player.
Whilst I don't think Mangala is half as bad as some on this site - I do think there are limits to Pep's time and abilities - getting Mangala to do what Pep requires would be quite a challenge, he's a strong lad but he's a very unnatural awkward footballer.
Hope we see him in the friendlies. If he's good we could save money on a CB and it may give us the extra few million to get other deals over the line quicker. If he's bad we are screwed in negotiating all our deals as everyone will know we have a panic situation to address at CB.
Please do well Mangala!
Please do well Mangala!
SilverFox2
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I think Pep has decided he wants players who fit his particular style and have abilities he can hone to that pattern.
Seemingly anything outside of his basic requirements is not wanted on voyage.
Some are slow learners and some cannot learn at all so whatever it is I feel he wants a better starting point for the team player he needs.
Pity really and hopefully he can find his niche but seems other teams are reluctant to sign him from City for whatever reason.
Seemingly anything outside of his basic requirements is not wanted on voyage.
Some are slow learners and some cannot learn at all so whatever it is I feel he wants a better starting point for the team player he needs.
Pity really and hopefully he can find his niche but seems other teams are reluctant to sign him from City for whatever reason.
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I'd be happy with him staying to see what he can learn in a year with Pep. He's had some good performances for us alongside the dross, and against top players and teams.
Agree he tends to play well against better teams and players. He raises his game but drops a few howlers against average.
I have to say there is a very good player in there somewhere and I would like to see him given a go. We only have 3 centre halfs and 1 suffers from injuries and the other two do lose form now and then, so I certainly would not want him going out on loan. Better here providing back up.
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