End of an Era

Chi-town blues said:
Rememember when Mancini said after the winning title that every big club needs to add one or two top class players but than came the Barca boys .
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To be fair to Txiki and Soriano, since they arrived we've won 3 trophies including a league and cup double, reached a CL semi final, played the best football I have ever seen City play in Pellegrini's first season, oversaw a stadium expansion and the creation of the CFA, made us a self sustainable club and persuaded the most sought after coach in world football to come to our club. Not too shabby if you ask me.

The last two seasons have felt like a massive under achievement but when Pep arrives is when I think we will really start to see what they've been working towards for the last few years.
 
It's a very fine line (please excuse any typos , grammar etc) as I'm still massively hungover. Watched match last night with a neighbour who is a big Sheff Wed fan . We talked about squads before and how you need to bring through youth and get hungry player in a the right time. His side reached 2 cup finals in 1993 and to this day he insists that that againg sqaud of Harkes, HIrst , Warhurst, waddle, nillson he named about 5-6 other was dismantled one or two seasons too early and replaced by cheap foreign imports coming for one last pay day. Until ths season Sheff wed have more or less struggled ever since. Don't have a go at me if i got names wrong as i'm not typing this first hand.
What as the above posters have said timing is everything and one season too early or one season too late to replace a sqaud core and the whole thing can go to shit with disastrous consequenses.
 
End of an era yes. But the new era started this year and is bedding in quite good. I am optimistic for once.

Core of the team now is
Hart
Clichy
Otamendi
De-Bryune
Silva
Aguerro

Strengthen the midfield with strong midfielders - Gundogen and Pogba maybe, and we're set to win the prem.

End of an era though for Zaba, Kompany, Kolarov (Begrudgingly), Yaya....
 
LWashington said:
It's a very fine line (please excuse any typos , grammar etc) as I'm still massively hungover. Watched match last night with a neighbour who is a big Sheff Wed fan . We talked about squads before and how you need to bring through youth and get hungry player in a the right time. His side reached 2 cup finals in 1993 and to this day he insists that that againg sqaud of Harkes, HIrst , Warhurst, waddle, nillson he named about 5-6 other was dismantled one or two seasons too early and replaced by cheap foreign imports coming for one last pay day. Until ths season Sheff wed have more or less struggled ever since. Don't have a go at me if i got names wrong as i'm not typing this first hand.
What as the above posters have said timing is everything and one season too early or one season too late to replace a sqaud core and the whole thing can go to shit with disastrous consequenses.
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Nail on the head mate, timing is the essence of power.
As many already stated, i think we lost our momentum 18 month ago.
Mancini's last season was a threatening warning of the brick-wall we were due to hit within a couple of years to come.
We could have dealt with the situation as Barca did with their aging core of Pujol/Abidal/Xavi and Villa.
But classic City never dies; feeling the comfort of having plenty of time in our hands to push the button, we took the lenient way.
Now Pep's work is cut out, and it is a massive one may i say.
 
I think the end of this era is a great thing. Not because of last night's performance, but because where the club is now. When we were taken over, we really needed great players to take a punt on us - and paid them to do so. Yaya, Tevez, Dzeko, Nasri, Robinho,... we needed all those players a lot more than they needed us. Many of them are legends, but the relationship was always skewed: we were overly dependent on them, and you could tell off (and sometimes on) the pitch that they felt bigger than the club. Look at Tevez buggering off, Cakegate, Dzeko sulking, Robinho not caring,.... I'm sure this also affected the attitude of many of the lesser players: Think of Kolarov, Bridge.

As we enter a new era, we are a huge club with the most coveted manager in the world - and ambitious players will want to play here on our terms. This will make for a much more balanced relationship between the club and the players, and I'm confident we will see a new attitude on and off the pitch. I think the next generation of City players will be great.
 
tramazi said:
End of an era yes. But the new era started this year and is bedding in quite good. I am optimistic for once.

Core of the team now is
Hart
Clichy
Otamendi
De-Bryune
Silva
Aguerro

Strengthen the midfield with strong midfielders - Gundogen and Pogba maybe, and we're set to win the prem.

End of an era though for Zaba, Kompany, Kolarov (Begrudgingly), Yaya....
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The thing is we really don't know who will be the core of the team any more. It will depend on what Guardiola thinks he can make of the players we have and how well they fit in with the way he wants us to play. For example, it wouldn't surprise me to see him bring in a new keeper who is more comfortable on the ball which may spell the end for Hart.
 
yes it is the end of an era, but lets not get to down about it, we have had it very good these last 5+ years, now its time to move on to a new and exciting new era.
I for one can not wait for the new season and what it will bring.
 
Chi-town blues said:
Rememember when Mancini said after the winning title that every big club needs to add one or two top class players but than came the Barca boys .
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Rewriting history?
Players signed for 12/13 season
Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Javi Garcia, Nastasic.

Soriano started work September 2012 and Txiki October 2012 so were not responsible for that putrid rabble.
 
Deepest Blue said:
Rewriting history?
Players signed for 12/13 season
Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Javi Garcia, Nastasic.

Soriano started work September 2012 and Txiki October 2012 so were not responsible for that putrid rabble.
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One of those regular rewrites.

Harsh to describe Javi as putrid: he played a key role in seeing us over the line for the title.
 
OB1 said:
One of those regular rewrites.

Harsh to describe Javi as putrid: he played a key role in seeing us over the line for the title.
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As a group that's what they were.
Javi did fulfill a purpose eventually and was the best of a dreadful bunch but annoys me when so many blame everything post-Cooke on Ferren and Txiki.
We had an interregnum during which an opportunity was missed. We missed out on van Persie, Hazard and Sneijder that summer.
 
We need a fantastic midfield, one to rival any of those in Europe. Look at our midfield and we are a top 6 in Europe and not a top 1. If you look at Madrid last night, Isco, Modric and Kroos were just everywhere playing with movement, energy and quality whereas our midfield was static and looked knackered.

We missed Nasri last night, just someone in the middle who turns and finds a pass with the ability to do so under pressure. Instead we had to rely on pelting it forwards and seizing upon half chances. The only other outlet was Navas and he was as frustrating as ever, how were we ever going to score with having 44% possession but giving it away 80% of the time.

We need to break the bank to get a hard worker and quality in midfield because that is where games defensively are lost and offensively goals are made. Yaya historically has done that for us but he played his last game for us last night, absolute disgrace if you watch his movement, not a care. Even the two Fern's were running all over having to cover for him, he lapsed between play, when we attacked he was behind the ball, when we defended he was ahead of it, ridiculous.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
It will take Pep 2 years minimum to sort the post MP mess out. Thanks MP.
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We are not bringing in Pep to take at least 2 years to sort this team out he will want to hit the ground running.

Sort the midfield out as i feel that was our biggest weakness this season as teams were just walking through us in that position most games and it wont take him long to get the team flying.
 
OB1 said:
We are the great underachievers but at least these days that does not equate to winning nothing or getting relegated. Maybe Pep can be the one to see us achieve our full potential.
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Nah, Spurs or over more recent years, Arsenal are the great underachievers.

I mean look at that team Spurs had when they had Modric and Bale and didn't they win fuck all?
 
leewill31 said:
We are not bringing in Pep to take at least 2 years to sort this team out he will want to hit the ground running.

Sort the midfield out as i feel that was our biggest weakness this season as teams were just walking through us in that position most games and it wont take him long to get the team flying.
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This, the Barca team that Pep took over that had big names used badly but he'll actually have a bit of a blank slate this summer.

It's fairly likely that Yaya, who is as much a symptom of our problems as cause, is gone. Fernando, Demichelis, Kolarov, Zabaleta, Bony and possibly Mangala all probably gone. Navas, no idea whether he stays or goes.

Leaves a core of Hart, Sagna, Clichy, Kompany, Otamendi, Delph, Fernandinho, Nasri, de Bruyne, Sterling, Kun and Iheanacho.

Needs serious attention to midfield and defence, new sub keeper, another forward/ wide player and a few kids to be given chances. Thinking denayer, Garcia x 2, Byrne, Angelino, celina and in time Brahim.

Essentially need to replace our midfield and find some leaders. Last night we desperately missed Kompany's leadership. An increased work rate would make an enormous difference.
 
quiet_riot said:
Unfortunately, if we want the sustained success that the owners want, there can't be an 'era' - we need to keep constantly and consistently refreshed, be it with decent signings or developed youth products.
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*uckin A.
 
inbetween said:
We need a fantastic midfield, one to rival any of those in Europe. Look at our midfield and we are a top 6 in Europe and not a top 1. If you look at Madrid last night, Isco, Modric and Kroos were just everywhere playing with movement, energy and quality whereas our midfield was static and looked knackered.

We missed Nasri last night, just someone in the middle who turns and finds a pass with the ability to do so under pressure. Instead we had to rely on pelting it forwards and seizing upon half chances. The only other outlet was Navas and he was as frustrating as ever, how were we ever going to score with having 44% possession but giving it away 80% of the time.

We need to break the bank to get a hard worker and quality in midfield because that is where games defensively are lost and offensively goals are made. Yaya historically has done that for us but he played his last game for us last night, absolute disgrace if you watch his movement, not a care. Even the two Fern's were running all over having to cover for him, he lapsed between play, when we attacked he was behind the ball, when we defended he was ahead of it, ridiculous.
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Nasri has the ability all right but does he have the dedication and bottle I think not.
 
leewill31 said:
We are not bringing in Pep to take at least 2 years to sort this team out he will want to hit the ground running.

Sort the midfield out as i feel that was our biggest weakness this season as teams were just walking through us in that position most games and it wont take him long to get the team flying.
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I don't disagree that the midfield will need sorting, but he will have to look at how we currently attack, with everyone seemingly not willing to get in the box.
 
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