One thing I think people forget with this nations league crap, is that it was only invented to replace pointless friendlies before tournament qualifiers, do I like it, no not a lot, and the games still to a degree feel like "pointless friendlies" where the coaches like to experiment.
Putting all those players together tonight was pointless "trying something different" it actually achieved nothing but a disjointed mess, with many players looking poor, not knowing their jobs etc etc.
One example is Rico, he looked OK there in one game, but every time he's played there for City, he's looked a little lost, and I thought he was still one of the better players tonight.
So many of the players were really poor tonight. I'll start with our own Phil, yes it's true there are a couple who just won't pass to him, but he's really not on form for us yet, he's not moving like he was, and he just doesn't fit that role in that team, with those players.
Saka was everything I always think he is for England. Rice hasn't ever done it for me (club or country). Bellingham is mostly hype about the good things he can do, but everyone ignores the shit things he does, of which there are many, but above all constantly making poor decisions (and constantly thinking waving your arms at the fans is football). Pickford is a liability, always has been, makes the odd save yes, but as many rickets. Alexander Arnold - frilly knickers not a good footballer.
Whether under Southgate or Carsley, we keep seeing the same performances, however they're set up, and with the talent available it's simply not up to much as a "team" for most of the time.