England v Slovakia - Sun 30th June, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Round of 16

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This was absolutely nothing to do with Southgate and everything to do with us playing a poor side and suddenly finding something.
We were sodding turgid for 75 minutes and if that's the level of football you like then fine.
I've seen some poor England sides in my time, but this team isn't poor. The performance was though (again) and that's down to Southgate. Nobody else.
Southgate took us to a level that allowed us to be a professional "unit" but that's it.
He's shit.
 
That England shirt that "celebrated" English fashion and tailoring has to be the worst football shirt I've ever seen.

It had this button collar that was supposed to give a "retro" vibe to it and had "150 Years" above the Three Lions crest. Then to make it worse, had this "confetti" design to it of little St George flags.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I did answer that.

Like most of the favourites in this tournament we’ve lacked confidence, haven’t gelled and been pretty poor.

You will obsessively scream Southgate and yes criticism is valid for Trent in the middle, not finding the right pairing with Rice, subs too late, being negative at times- that’s criticism right ? Or will you just continue to say I’m avoiding the question and can’t answer it ?

How about some questions for you to answer?
Do you accept sometimes in tournaments some sides reach the final and even win it not playing pretty football ? Do you accept some great sides sometimes dig out results when they’ve been poor? Do you accept that sometimes a couple players off their game can make the difference, a bad official decision, hitting the woodwork etc can mean losing a match and it’s not always the managers fault ?
Also do you give Southgate praise for his subs tonight which changed the game?
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Southgate is a ****
 
bridgeno1 said:
Rodri would also look shit playing for Southgate. Rodri is however a better player than Rice however wouldn't be anywhere near his City/Spain levels in the current Enhland team. He'd probably be picked on the left wing anyway.
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Nice try...
 
BlueHammer85 said:
I do aswell when some don’t debate in good faith because they personally hate Bellingham and don’t want England to win.tagging me in whenever we’re losing. They only want to hear negativity and hatred - anything else then it’s ’you’re being a WUM’

Some make fair criticisms and debate well.
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This forums issue with Bellingham is not about him personally, more professionally.
He appears to be a big headed prick on the pitch. That kind of player, with the media behind him, can become a very big problem for this and any future manager, player, or system.
He is being compared to some outstanding footballers, but the difference is they have actually performed at an exceptionally high level over many years.
Most people lauding him are doing so out of desperation to have a world superstar in the squad.
So far, his levels have been mediocre at best. Your superstar can't continue to be anonymous each game but get out of jail with the odd goal, no matter how crucial. Performances are more valuable than goals. High personal performances = goals scored by the team and therefore success as a team.
Bellingham seems to be about Bellingham.

On the other point, if you are being baited then fight back. That's fair. But do it when they actually perform, not when they stumble over the line like a piss head getting through the door at 3am.
 
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