England v Switzerland - Sat 6th July, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Quarter-Final

Match Result Prediction?

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BlueHammer85 said:
Haaland for them 3 or 4 games wasn’t playing well, nothing disastrous or panic stations but I remember a few in media and others saying he wasn’t playing well.

Kane just having a similar patch but has also come up with a couple of vital goals.

I’m sure Southgate would want him holding the ball up better and distributing better - If that’s what you mean? It’s down to Kane to up his game- he’s playing in his same position so it’s down to him.

Nothing here I say is anything remotely controversial- I agree with you he’s not playing that well I just disagree that ‘only Southgate wouldn’t drop him’ if anything is embarrassing it’s that comment. Goodnight.
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The major difference being when Haaland isn't scoring he is still a problem for defenses and they usually double up on him, leaving space for the rest of the team to punish them, because he's physically strong and also very fast, so it's difficult for one man to mark him most of the time.

If Kane isn't scoring, he's not really doing anything. He's not particularly physical, 75% of this forum could smoke him in a foot race. He's a good passer of the ball, better than Haaland in that respect but England don't play in a way that he can utilise that.

So Kane right now offers the square root of fuck all unless you put it on a plate for him.

Haaland without getting on the score sheet can take two defenders out of the game because they know most of them can't beat him for speed or physicality one on one.

Put Haaland in this England team and the likes of Foden, Bellingham and Saka would suddenly have so much more time and space to get at defences. There would be way more touches in the opposition box. I'd bet my house on it.
 
Northmanc68 said:
I’ve been bored to tears the way we have played this tournament but his record is better than any other manager bar Ramsey , last four tournaments will have been S-F, Final , Q-F and at least another S-F , i remember 74 , 78 , 94 and 2008 when we didn’t even qualify let alone come close to winning
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Barring 2000 and 2006 we have played a lot better in past tournaments despite the record under Southgate. And this not the first crop of talent England has had at their disposal. As I mentioned in replying to super_-city_si's post I rather not progress but play better football as a team than sleepwalking through another tournament.

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RayCTID said:
Barring 2000 and 2006 we have played a lot better in past tournaments despite the record under Southgate. And this not the first crop of talent England has had at their disposal. As I mentioned in replying to super_-city_si's post I rather not progress but play better football as a team than sleepwalking through another
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Our goals in this tournament.

Deflected cross
Deflected cross
Individual moment of brilliance
Set-piece, followed by a miss-hit shot.
Individual moment of brilliance.

I cannot recall an actual chance we've created in the 5 games we've played.
 
Ultimately it’s about winning , Switzerland , Romania , Germany and Austria have played far better than us yet there all out - just have a feeling Southgate will somehow win the tournament , be hailed a genius and be knighted by Keir Starmer - Ridiculous I know
 
Northmanc68 said:
Ultimately it’s about winning , Switzerland , Romania , Germany and Austria have played far better than us yet there all out - just have a feeling Southgate will somehow win the tournament , be hailed a genius and be knighted by Keir Starmer - Ridiculous I know
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England haven't done much winning either. I'd rather be in the teams mentioned position than the current shite that is being served up.
 
ROCKET80 said:
Our goals in this tournament.

Deflected cross
Deflected cross
Individual moment of brilliance
Set-piece, followed by a miss-hit shot.
Individual moment of brilliance.

I cannot recall an actual chance we've created in the 5 games we've played.
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We haven’t , but by the same rule we haven’t conceded lots of chances and only conceded 3 goals
 
RayCTID said:
Currently yes. It is shit football. Not winning football which is lacking cohesesion. Same with previous tournaments under Southgate. Stats can paper over the cracks.
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United didn’t deserve to win the FA Cup the way they played against Liverpool and Coventry and Newport , Real Madrid the same against Us , Bayern and Dortmund but ultimately nobody will remember those games just the fact they won it
 
Northmanc68 said:
United didn’t deserve to win the FA Cup the way they played against Liverpool and Coventry and Newport , Real Madrid the same against Us , Bayern and Dortmund but ultimately nobody will remember those games just the fact they won it
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City were pissed up in the final and lost to poor preparation. We very nearly clawed the game back in our favour. This is coming off the back of winning 4 league titles in a row which no team has ever achieved in the Premier League era. City play winning football. England don't
 
RayCTID said:
City were pissed up in the final and lost to poor preparation. We very nearly clawed the game back in our favour. This is coming off the back of winning 4 league titles in a row which no team has ever achieved in the Premier League era. City play winning football. England
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Whoever wins the League is the best team , the best team doesn’t always win the cup but ultimately whoever does has played winning football no matter how bad it has been
 
RayCTID said:
I wouldn't call England's style winning. It is more akin to Donald Trump's version of winning.
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England need to win a tournament. It doesn't matter how you do it, just get it done.

Attractive football would be preferable but playing well and getting knocked out isn't better than playing badly but still being in the competition.

We are lucky with City that we play well and win things more often than not. But there are still games we have to dig in and scrap for. Spurs away wasn't a classic performance but it was job done.

Real Madrid have won countless CL titles being outplayed but finding a way to get through.

When the monkey is off our back maybe we can have the confidence to be more attacking in our approach, but for now you just have to suck it up if it is ultimately successful.

Performances don't matter now, it's just about getting the job done.
 
Can't wait to see them get knocked out, once again they've overstayed their welcome at a major tournament.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if Southgate walks even if he does win it. Some of the vitriol is just ridiculous and it's even coming from people with massive platforms.
 
RayCTID said:
City were pissed up in the final and lost to poor preparation. We very nearly clawed the game back in our favour. This is coming off the back of winning 4 league titles in a row which no team has ever achieved in the Premier League era. City play winning football. England don't
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We lost at the end of the day and we played shit united played poor throughout the tournament and won though you don't need to play good football to win tournaments to be fair in the final they probably deserved the win against us we were fucking awful that first half. If england win the euros playing like they are doing then happy day's and fair play.
 
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MeatnSpudsMCFC said:
Wouldn't surprise me if Southgate walks even if he does win it. Some of the vitriol is just ridiculous and it's even coming from people with massive platforms.
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Think he knew taking the job and probably used to the ridiculous knicker wetting outrage and abuse.
Being England manager is the ultimate poison chalice, only way you might get a break is if you win a major tournament - even then it will be 'won it in spite of him' or 'only because we got lucky'.
 
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