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[Two Gun Bob]

in the summer of 1940 my granddad - who wasn’t British - was fighting against the German in North Africa. Britain was not “alone” at any time in the war. It’s not an insult to Britain to say this, it doesn’t undermine anyone’s pride if they want to feel proud, it’s just a simple matter of fact.

He would not have been fighting the Germans but fighting Italians that had just declared war on Britain and France in June 1940. Germany felt obliged to get embroiled in the North Africa campaign around December of that year. I think rommels Afrika Corp landed at tripoli in early 1941.

Britain stood alone in the European theater against the German army when all of Europe had fell to the hun. I have already mentioned the brave 20% of commonwealth and foreign pilots that fought alongside us and I salute their memory.

 

[Rascal]

The war in 1940 was centered around the European theater and whilst NZ SA and Canada were our allies it was Britain that stood resolute in this hour of need engaging the Hun in mortal combat over the skies of England for the freedom of the known world. We are talking about a battle and a moment in time in a WW2 theater were we stood fast.

As mentioned earlier, we did not stand alone on the field of battle during the remainder of the campaign. Hitlers downfall was taking the fight on too many fronts at the same time and of course the harsh Russian winter. The bombing by the Japanese of pearl harbour didn't exactly help their cause either. If Russia and America had not being sucked into the maelstrom then I fear this sceptered isle of ours would have been lost unto hands of tyranny and the world a very different place that we see before us today.

Are you playing Elgar as you type that nonsense?

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Are you playing Elgar as you type that nonsense?

The most ironic post of the day award goes to ...

 

[Rascal]

Your wrong and as @PannickAtTheDisco mentioned changed the year back to 1939 to suit your own narrative. There is no stopping you when you on a roll : / In the summer of 1940 Britain stood alone against the might of the Wehrmachts Luftwaffe.

From 1939, they didn't stop being allies on New Years Day of 1940

If you want to believe in British exceptionalism , that's your choice, but you are doing a huge disservice to those who fought along side us.

 

[Rascal]

He would not have been fighting the Germans but fighting Italians that had just declared war on Britain and France in June 1940. Germany felt obliged to get embroiled in the North Africa campaign around December of that year. I think rommels Afrika Corp landed at tripoli in early 1941.

Britain stood alone in the European theater against the German army when all of Europe had fell to the hun. I have already mentioned the brave 20% of commonwealth and foreign pilots that fought alongside us and I salute their memory.

All of Europe didn't fall to the Hun.

Do you know why there was a North African campaign?

Britain and its allies were fighting the Italians in Ethiopia and Somaliland.

After Dunkirk the only European theatre where the British Army saw action during this time was in Greece – although once again most of the troops who served were actually from Australia and New Zealand. Greece was at war with the Axis powers for most of 39/40, which in itself makes the claim that Britain stood alone seem dubious

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

The idea that it was only British people, on British soil, left to fight against the Nazi regime and its allies after the fall of France has never been suggested by anyone, anywhere. The 'notion' of Britain remaining alone in the fight relates to the fact that it was the last major country, and primary participant in the Great War, in Europe not to have been invaded or allied to Germany, or declared neutral, and likely to be the last major arena of battle in a total Nazi victory in Europe. The country fought (with its allies) for that period in 1940 under the leadership (mainly) of the British military and hence it is acceptable to say Britain stood alone.

 

[Saddleworth2]

The war in 1940 was centered around the European theater and whilst NZ SA and Canada were our allies it was Britain that stood resolute in this hour of need engaging the Hun in mortal combat over the skies of England for the freedom of the known world. We are talking about a battle and a moment in time in a WW2 theater were we stood fast.

As mentioned earlier, we did not stand alone on the field of battle during the remainder of the campaign. Hitlers downfall was taking the fight on too many fronts at the same time and of course the harsh Russian winter. The bombing by the Japanese of pearl harbour didn't exactly help their cause either. If Russia and America had not being sucked into the maelstrom then I fear this sceptered isle of ours would have been lost unto hands of tyranny and the world a very different place that we see before us today.

But those allies supplied us with many brave soldiers, sailors and airmen;

The RAF Roll of Honour recognises that 574 pilots, from countries other than the United Kingdom, as flying at least one authorized, operational sortie with an eligible unit during the period between 10 July to 31 October 1940, alongside 2,353 British pilots. The numbers differ slightly from the participants whose names are engraved on the Battle of Britain Monument in London, unveiled on 18 September 2005.

no one is disputing that our role was primary but ‘standing alone’ diminishes the role of service men from many other countries.

 

[Saddleworth2]

The idea that it was only British people, on British soil, left to fight against the Nazi regime and its allies after the fall of France has never been suggested by anyone, anywhere. The 'notion' of Britain remaining alone in the fight relates to the fact that it was the last major country, and primary participant in the Great War, in Europe not to have been invaded or allied to Germany, or declared neutral, and likely to be the last major arena of battle in a total Nazi victory in Europe. The country fought (with its allies) for that period in 1940 under the leadership (mainly) of the British military and hence it is acceptable to say Britain stood alone.

No it’s not. Not when many other countries provided servicemen who fought and died alongside our own. Sorry mate, but the language is important.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

No it’s not. Not when many other countries provided servicemen who fought and died alongside our own. Sorry mate, but the language is important.

The official fighting forces in the Battle of Britain were Britain/Canada vs Germany/Italy. No other countries are listed as belligerents, no units come from other countries. We are not talking about ignoring the sacrifices made by individuals, we are talking about the phrase "Britain stood alone". The vast majority of victims of the Battle of Britain & Blitzkreigs on the Allies side would have been British (when you include the tens of thousands of civilians killed).

 

[Saddleworth2]

The official fighting forces in the Battle of Britain were Britain/Canada vs Germany/Italy. No other countries are listed as belligerents, no units come from other countries. We are not talking about ignoring the sacrifices made by individuals, we are talking about the phrase "Britain stood alone". The vast majority of victims of the Battle of Britain & Blitzkreigs on the Allies side would have been British (when you include the tens of thousands of civilians killed)

The RAF Roll of Honour recognises that 574 pilots, from countries other than the United Kingdom, as flying at least one authorized, operational sortie with an eligible unit during the period between 10 July to 31 October 1940, alongside 2,353 British pilots.

so 20% of those that fought in the Battle of Britain were from our stated allies, Poland, Canada, NZ... and you still want to persist that Britain stood alone. ...