Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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denislawsbackheel said:
I think he meant you plank!

I merely said I didn’t believe the spoiled virgin schtick she came out with.

I still think Andrew’s in it up to his eyes and could face charges in the States.

You went way further to say you think he is innocent.
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i think is he a **** and clearly lying, perhaps i was too harsh last night but i think it is not black and white. She was not convincing at all to me.
 
karen7 said:
He claimed in his interview that he hasn't met her,slept with her or doesn't know anything about her,the e-mail showed he lied,he knows her name at the very least
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Well he would know her name, this started in court documents in 2015 in the US. Of course he knew her name
 
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She was banging the son of a duke allegedly.
 
karen7 said:
He claimed in his interview that he hasn't met her,slept with her or doesn't know anything about her,the e-mail showed he lied,he knows her name at the very least
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To be fair, he sent that email after she made her allegations. Of course he would have known her name by that point, whether he'd previously met her or not.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
18 minutes in
She expects us to believe this crap!
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Watching it now and paused it after 19 mins as I remembered this post of yours.

What part of what she said up to that point did you find so unbelievable? As far as I'm aware, none of what she alleged in those first 18 mins has ever been disputed.

She was undeniably working as a masseuse for him at that time and there are logs to prove she travelled the world with him.
 
Dubai Blue said:
Watching it now and paused it after 19 mins as I remembered this post of yours.

What part of what she said up to that point did you find so unbelievable? As far as I'm aware, none of what she alleged in those first 18 mins has ever been disputed.

She was undeniably working as a masseuse for him at that time and there are logs to prove she travelled the world with him.
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so you find being asked at your interview to take your clothes off and wank a man off and rather than walk out you comply credible?
 
denislawsbackheel said:
so you find being asked at your interview to take your clothes off and wank a man off and rather than walk out you comply credible?
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Well, it doesn't strike me as incredible that a prolific sexual predator in a position of power would put a vulnerable 17-year-old runaway and sexual abuse victim in such a situation.

It's the kind of thing Harvey Weinstein has been accused of doing on many, many occasions and to people far less vulnerable than Virginia Roberts was.
 
Dubai Blue said:
Well, it doesn't strike me as incredible that a prolific sexual predator in a position of power would put a vulnerable 17-year-old runaway and sexual abuse victim in such a situation.

It's the kind of thing Harvey Weinstein has been accused of doing on many, many occasions and to people far less vulnerable than Virginia Roberts was.
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There are wolves and sheep. On both sides. Using Harvey Weinstein as an example does your argument no favours in my eyes (fwiw)
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
There are wolves and sheep. On both sides. Using Harvey Weinstein as an example does your argument no favours in my eyes (fwiw)
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I just don't think her accusations up to that point were that outrageously unbelievable given the prevailing circumstances and the people involved.

Of course she may have completely made the whole "interview" episode up, but I can just as equally imagine it going exactly the way she described. I'm certainly not in a position to dismiss it outright as "crap".
 
denislawsbackheel said:
I think he meant you plank!

I merely said I didn’t believe the spoiled virgin schtick she came out with.

I still think Andrew’s in it up to his eyes and could face charges in the States.

You went way further to say you think he is innocent.
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You didnt watch it. She claimed to have been abused from the age of 7. Hardly 'spoiled virgin schtick' as you state. Some rank, misogynistic and down right vile statements on here.
 
Hart of the Matter said:
You didnt watch it. She claimed to have been abused from the age of 7. Hardly 'spoiled virgin schtick' as you state. Some rank, misogynistic and down right vile statements on here.
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Exactly they get put into these circles at a young age and create a situation where the victim things it is normal for all this to happen.

It's annoying because Bill Clinton will die without facing justice and only then will it come out about him.
 
worsleyweb said:
You are right and i apologise genuinely for my comments on this the other night. i have been reading up more on this Maxwell women and Epstien and they were very wrong.

Please accept my genuine apology.
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No worries, been reading up on Jeffery for years he was a scumbag, made himself a billionaire through fraud and then provided young girls to elites which he would then use as blackmail. Was a clever man just rotten to the core.

Look up his blackbook and the people who have flown on his plane, some surprising names.
 
Scottyboi said:
Exactly they get put into these circles at a young age and create a situation where the victim things it is normal for all this to happen.

It's annoying because Bill Clinton will die without facing justice and only then will it come out about him.
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Absolutely fucking bang on about that **** Clinton.
 
Scottyboi said:
No worries, been reading up on Jeffery for years he was a scumbag, made himself a billionaire through fraud and then provided young girls to elites which he would then use as blackmail. Was a clever man just rotten to the core.

Look up his blackbook and the people who have flown on his plane, some surprising names.
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Bet he never got BA Baracus on that plane.
 
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